Autopsy finds Cuban immigrant in ICE custody died of homicide due to asphyxia
https://apnews.com/article/ice-immigration-detention-death-texas-f04b5cb76f175255e58b947f0e14bc12
https://apnews.com/article/ice-immigration-detention-death-texas-f04b5cb76f175255e58b947f0e14bc12
46 Comments
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 210d
Too bad nothing will be done about it.
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 210d
paper is patient
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io · -4 pts · 210d
This show ain't over, yet. You got a crystal ball?
underisk@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 210d
No but I’ve got several decades of unchecked police criminality and brutality that paint a pretty clear picture of how this will go.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 209d
"The answer is not to defund the police. It's to fund the police." -Biden
j_elgato@leminal.space · 42 pts · 210d
"died after guards held him down and he stopped breathing"
Fucks sake AP, what's with the passive voice here? Was he holding his fucking breath??
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 210d
It's unfortunate but usually wording like that is intentional and necessary, I.E if you say "mother fuckers murdered him" you'll get sued.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 209d
A couple caveats
this only applies if you're a trusted news source - musk or trump could say this tomorrow and would win the case because they're known liars. The implication here is that anyone that can legally get away with saying shit any other way is either a small potato, known liar or if its irrefutable truth.
I think in this case, specifically, they could probably say he was murdered by somebody because they already said homocide in the title
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 209d
I'm not saying they're correct in not calling it that, or that the system necessarily works that way, but they'll have lawyers to look over everything in these sorts of scenarios and they'll, usually, ask to play it safe.
Also, re point 2, it's different to say "autopsy says it's homicide" vs the paper/journalist saying that they were murdered. Unless it's legally ruled as such (judge/court case), the news agency could be liable if they said it themselves. The headline is essentially just quoting someone else.
j_elgato@leminal.space · 2 pts · 209d
Lot of grey area this side of libel, especially for active v passive voice.
The other one is when an underage suspect is a person of color you get "17 year old man" rather than "17 year old minor/child/student/driver/suspected victim of police brutality" etc..
chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 209d
Mmm, I smell money. Capitalism is the problem.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 210d
As did Epstein.
CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 210d
...save him...
for themselves
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 3 pts · 209d
Guaranteed they're lying. They're just trying to act like it doesn't matter that they murdered him because he was trying to kill himself anyway.
notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 209d
There is a WITNESS to his murder, who was mentioned in earlier articles. This needs to mean something.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 209d
"I'll do it! I'm gonna jump!"
Let me save you by giving you a slight push.
victorz@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 210d
Wow, so they strangle people to death now, too. Great.
Steve@startrek.website · 12 pts · 210d
Its a waste of manpower honestly. Maybe some sort of gas would be more efficient than individual stranglings.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Please dont tell me this needs the sarcasm tag :::
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
Maybe some kind of laser like in War of the Worlds. Bzzzzrrrreooong
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 210d
MDCGA
Making Death Camps Great Again.
Land of the free, home of the brave.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 210d
And those braindead maga fucks cheer it on. "Well he shouldn't have been illegal!" "He should've never come here in the first place!"
As if any of those excuses justify fucking murder.
Paddzr@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 210d
They're fine to execute civilians because they disobey them.
Judge, jury and executioner.
No other country in the world would accept this.
village604@adultswim.fan · 8 pts · 210d
I'm just waiting for a Grok generated video of another detainee doing it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 209d
ms dog annihilator noem, will ssay he was a violent immigrant.
jim@lemmy.org · 5 pts · 210d
Maybe another protest sign will do the trick
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 209d
I like that my Lemmy app shows a little baby chick 🐣 icon next to brand new accounts. Super handy.
PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org · 3 pts · 209d
I like that I have you tagged as “jerk” super handy
kaklerbitmap@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 209d
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 209d
WHY I OUGHTA!
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 210d
Has anyone tried sending a sternly written letter suggesting body cameras during state sponsored chokings?
username123@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 210d
Protest signs are one step up from protest comments, though I agree that the pattern needs progression across the board.
jim@lemmy.org · 1 pts · 210d
Sure but this online, so comments are what we have in this space.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 210d
and it's the only space you take any action within
PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org · 0 pts · 210d
Just like you?
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 209d
Way to tell on yourself, I never made the claim you did. If all your doing is commenting, you're doing nothing.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 209d
WHOA, Whoa, whoa. I have it on good authority that most lemmy commenters think commenting takes lots of effort. -This is based on my experience of telling people on here that "I couldn't care less" about certain issues and saying "commenting on lemmy takes next to no effort." Boy did those people try to convince me I was wrong.
username123@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 209d
Can't we all just be co-protesters and get along? We need to fight the Nazis with a care bear stare at the very least.
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io · 4 pts · 210d
Died of asphyxiation. grrr. There's a heap of justice waiting to land on somebody. Several somebodies.
jpreston2005@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
Ice out here murdering people in their concentration camps-
Actually I'll take a pass, I'll get upset at the next one
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 210d
Everyone deserves due process no matter how heinous they are. If someone is denied due process, no one has due process.
Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I'm perfectly ok with denying them due process
treesquid@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 210d
Congrats, Trump has just designated you a Nazi ringleader, now you don't get due process. You say it isn't true, but how do you prove it if you aren't given due process? See how this is always fucking stupid? Everyone gets due process or nobody does.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 210d
And how is that different than what's happening right now? They've already decided that anyone who's trans or anti capitalist is a."terrorist"
frog_brawler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 209d
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 210d
Sadly even Nazi ringleaders, otherwise Republicans will simply label those protesting ICE as "Nazi ringleaders" to deny them due process. I'm a big fan of the due process that Nazi's received in Nuremberg and the outcome of those trial against those assholes.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 210d
Nuremberg barely did anything to them sadly. They all fled to Argentina and the US
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 209d
This is the exact shit they want. They probably chose to murder this dude specifically for exactly this reason.
Don't fall for it.
jpreston2005@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 209d
speaking as someone who was raped as a child, you don't get to tell me shit. It's illegal, and I want the officers held responsible, BUT, I don't care about child rapists getting murdered. Couldn't care less, actually. Hope it happens to all of them.