France will replace Microsoft Teams, Google Meet, Zoom, Webex and others with its own sovereign video conferencing application "Visio" for public officials
https://numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/
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stoy@lemmy.zip · 93 pts · 217d
Gotta admire France for not only calling for domestic alternatives, but for consistently funding and implementing domestic alternatives.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 16 pts · 216d
They've been doing that in many sectors for a while. It's almost a tradition of theirs. For example, they're the only country despite the USA and China capable of completely domestically manufacturing a fighter jet.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 216d
As a Swede, I sure know that, we like to yell about building our own fighter jet, but we are completely dependent on the US for mainly the engine, but several other components.
I hope we can collaborate with France or the UK for another engine with less restrictions.
ParadeDuGrotesque@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 216d
Rolls Royce has produced new engines for the Gripen
stoy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 216d
Have they been certified? I thought they were just testing them
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 216d
Haha, collaborating with France on defence? Forget it.
You can ask them whether they'd like to take your money and allowing you to follow their orders, and they might agree to that. Might. If you ask in perfect French.
DreasNil@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 216d
It's time for unity between Europeans, not mockery.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 216d
It is not mockery, it is based in fact. Read on the Eurofighter and the Rafale, or on the Leclerc and the Leopard 2, or the many other examples.
DreasNil@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 216d
I'm sure you're right about that. What I mean is that any annoyances we have with our neighbors from the past, we should try to LEAVE behind, and try to work together from now on, for a new and unified Europe ☺️
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 216d
This I agree with!
Vinstaal0@piefed.social · 34 pts · 217d
Replace a Microsoft product by a domestic product with the same name as another Microsoft product. It's kinda funny not gonna lie.
axh@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 217d
The headline "France replaces MS Teams with Visio" would be really confusing (but funny).
MartianSands@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
I gather that it seems more reasonable in french
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 8 pts · 216d
It's really called Visio, as an abbreviation of the French word visioconférence.
gaymer@aussie.zone · 20 pts · 217d
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 217d
Nice
errer@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 217d
and Paris too
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 216d
Lol
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social · 16 pts · 217d
Good on them, but I Wonder why they can't just build on top of something open source like Nextcloud.
It already has the majority of the Office-365 suite
Glitterkoe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 217d
I'd sooner see them integrate with https://cryptpad.fr/ which is another (jointly) French funded project to provide a secure collaborative office environment. I think this French Visio mostly targets (video) conferencing rather than the entire office suite.
ivn@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 217d
There is already La Suite Docs for documents.
Glitterkoe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
Ah, that sits at an interesting spot between collaborative Obsidian and classic Word. I only just noticed their other existing products but knew of CryptPad from earlier posts. I think it's great to see these alternatives pop up so we don't funnel ourselves into the next monopoly.
ivn@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 217d
It's built with https://github.com/livekit/livekit
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 12 pts · 217d
In such moments I wish our government had balls, too.
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 10 pts · 216d
I am always wondering why there is no standard for video conferencing?
We can be glad that the telephone was not invented in our times...
Pip@feddit.org · 1 pts · 216d
You are so right.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 216d
The same movement is visible in the Netherlands. In Germany, a couple of states are going down this road, but they’re not doing enough. Which is weird, because the Germans are very concerned about data protection, yet they do not mind if their medical data is in some US cloud…
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 216d
The ongoing shitfuckery by the US in forcing their corporations to hand over sovereign-nation data hosted in other nations datacenters (CLOUD Act), amongst many of their present stupidities, is fucking amazing for IT sovereignty and open source.
I couldn't have convinced the organizations and businesses I worked with in the past to move to more than a few niche open source products for tiny userbases, which I made sure they donated to. To suggest moving to a solution outside of the Garner Magic Quadrant for that particular business need / role for anything larger than dozen users was just "objectively illogical", I couldn't have put forth a winning business case proposal in 100 years.
But now they're doing it out of spite to the US government and finally seeing the light.
There's a lot of bad things going on in the world, but this.. this is great.
Greg@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 217d
Great move, awesome!!!! What about replacing copilot with mistral?
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
What critical features do those LLMs have that need to be replaced?
msage@programming.dev · 2 pts · 216d
Ingesting data from people inside the government.
Greg@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 216d
MS Copilot is a piece of trash no matter the angle you look at it.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
Exactly my thoughts. It doesn‘t need replacement it just needs to be dropped.
zoontechnicon@feddit.org · 7 pts · 216d
Is it open source?
ParadeDuGrotesque@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 216d
Yes
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 5 pts · 216d
Wholesome.
quoll@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 217d
how does that work with IT departments? ours dont know and have no interest in knowing about anything but microsoft ecosystem. attitude is pretty endemic in aussie.
qyron@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 217d
If it is to be implemented in the french public system, it will be enforced by strict orders. IT disliking it will be of no concern.
fierysparrow89@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 217d
I expect pandemic-levels of stubbornness, pettiness and relentless bitching.
ivn@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 217d
But meanwhile the Education and Health public sector made big contracts with Microsoft.
DreasNil@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 216d
Amazing first steps! Finally Europe is waking up.
laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 216d
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 216d
We are on lemmy, a decentralized and open source platform and people are cheering at the government for making its own sovereign video app for public officials...
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 217d
I am pretty sure that Microsoft won't let them use the name of one of their products for this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visio
I just hope the rest of the project is more well-grounded than the name selection seems to have been...
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 217d
In french this kind of applications are used for "Visioconférence" so I doubt they could do anything about this
https://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/traduction/visioconf%C3%A9rence.html
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 217d
In this case it might be the biggest "Fuck You" towards Microsoft that they could think of - and I am totally into that! :-)
vdbm@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
I agree. But it is a draft name. I am sure they will come up with something better.