WTF, I've been doing this for years. I buy a new pc every 10 years, shoes when you can see through them and clothes when mothers start covering their children's eyes as I mow the lawn.
I guess the next step is growing food for yourself and your neighbors, installing solar panels (its spending money, i know, but it reduces the money continuously flowing up, so its a win if you ask me).
Me too, i wrote that but i live in a small rented appartment. Im thinking about growing basic stuff like basil, rosemary, lemon balm. Its nowhere close to growing actual food, but its something.
The only thing on your list that I regularly do is order take-out, from small, local, mom & pop places. I already avoid fast food and chain restaurants. But my local Chinese restaurant isn’t part of the oligarchy, and I walk there to pick up my orders, so I see no reason to avoid them.
For a long time the powers that be have played us against eachother with "them and us" tactics. When its 'them' dying its not a problem, they might have had it coming, its a 'them' thing. When they do it to 'us', recent converts realise one of two things ; [we were all us all along and they played me for a fool] or [they're coming after us too].
Either way, they're now an ally. You can preach at them when this is over, and sort the 1st and 2nd kind apart at a more convenient time. Don't try and shame them for not coming onside sooner, it'll only create problems.
There's also the "one death is a tragedy, 100 deaths is a statistic" situation happening.
Another factor is that these murders are breaking through to the folks that see the violence of arrests and raids and the deaths and injury of detainees more as a necessary cost. They can't justify these murders in their world view and they can empathize with them because they know these people did "nothing wrong" and were still killed. Maybe it could be them next?
The big difference with the two recent ICE murders is that the video evidence:
Is graphic
Clearly shows no wrongdoing on the part of the victims
Shows sudden and completely unnecessary escalation to murder
And they were both US citizens, so ICE has no jurisdiction. So it doesn't even matter if they were serial murderers—that's a police matter, not immigration. (And, obviously, being white and valued members of their communities matters, too.)
Contrast that with:
The Canadian who died in custody because they were denied access to necessary life-saving medications has plausible deniability.
Many deaths by suicide in custody are "their fault" because they did it.
ICE shootings without video evidence could plausibly be self-defense.
Etc.
Plus, they're (mostly) not American citizens, so ICE could have a legal reason to detain them "with force" for "resisting arrest" (or whatever they want to spin).
Yes, but at the same time, they do care about these 2, so we should use their names. Putting individual faces to the victims is powerful, but if we put 100 faces out there's they all get lost in the crowd and it stops feeling personal.
Tryna convince the parents at my wife's school, but they poorer than us. It's a "lock the copy room or parents will take the paper" district which pisses me off. First, I know someone who would gladly donate like ten grand of paper if they just asked. I think they just stingy
There are people out there who think these killings are random, and that all of this doesn't have a plan and method behind it. Jimmy Kimmel just went on TV suggesting both sides can agree these killings were a mistake.
People still don't get this is being done intentionally, so that there can be no legitimate democracy in 2028. Yet Kimmel is on TV asking for reasonable Republicans to speak up. Pretending this is all just government gone wrong by accident.
This isn't an accident or mistake. There's a method, intention, a plan... And one side of politics is all about it.
People still don't get this is being done intentionally,
It's absolutely unintentional. No one from the U.S. government asked either Good or Pretti to show up on those days and obstruct and resist arrest.
Sorry but if you have mass scale organized obstruction of law enforcement it's inevitable that eventually something bad is going to happen; there's no other possible outcome.
Well ya, if everyone in Alabama suddenly started organizing and resisting and obstructing the police, there would be a massive increase in policing and conflict; and probably lots of violent encounters with police that possibly leads to lethal force.
At the end of every law is a gun; if you resist the police for long enough, a gun will eventually come out.
The United States lacks a lot of organizing structures compared to other countries, as well as lacking the social safety nets. Let this be a stepping stone rather than a point for derision.
Not according to my Minnesota food service employer that requires that I work every weekend (Friday-Sunday) or else get fired. Also, a LOT of places here do 4x10s (or at least give you the option) so the weekend is kind of Friday-Sunday
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comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 82 pts · 191d
Anti Consumerism is the best way everyone can fight this.
Stop all subscriptions like Netflix, Disney, Hulu, Prime, cable, YouTube, Spotify, iCloud, ….
Stop buying new clothes, stop buying new shoes, stop buying new phones, new computers, new yoga pants, ...
Stop consuming.
Buy the necessities only: groceries, laundry detergent, soap, toothpaste, etc.
Don’t eat out, don’t order delivery.
Stop feeding the oligarchy.
They will break quickly.
nik282000@lemmy.ca · 43 pts · 191d
WTF, I've been doing this for years. I buy a new pc every 10 years, shoes when you can see through them and clothes when mothers start covering their children's eyes as I mow the lawn.
regedit@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 190d
I told you Daisy Dukes and Croc's were a terrible choice for lawn work!
lemonySplit@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 190d
They are the only choice in my household
regedit@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 190d
Wall-to-wall of daisy dukes and crocs for as far as the eye can see!
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 17 pts · 191d
It is yes.
Hopefully this one day shows what a full general shutdown can do.
hector@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 190d
I've been doing all of that for years, what else you got?
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 190d
Yeah me too :[ I only break that rule around Xmas. Weed and indie video games are the bulk of my spending outside of mortgage and groceries.
Idk how I can not spend money harder.
zeca@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 190d
I guess the next step is growing food for yourself and your neighbors, installing solar panels (its spending money, i know, but it reduces the money continuously flowing up, so its a win if you ask me).
optissima@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 190d
And for those of us that are in rental locations that cannot do this… idk. I've been sitting on this for a while with no good ideas.
zeca@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 190d
Me too, i wrote that but i live in a small rented appartment. Im thinking about growing basic stuff like basil, rosemary, lemon balm. Its nowhere close to growing actual food, but its something.
glibg@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 190d
Smash some windows in corporate HQs?
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 190d
The only thing on your list that I regularly do is order take-out, from small, local, mom & pop places. I already avoid fast food and chain restaurants. But my local Chinese restaurant isn’t part of the oligarchy, and I walk there to pick up my orders, so I see no reason to avoid them.
ButWhatDoesItAllMean@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 191d
I'm ready
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 191d
the_q@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 191d
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 34 pts · 191d
Yup, it's why Racism is considered systemic in this country. Also they aren't just murdering people in the streets.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/04/ice-2025-deaths-timeline
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/27/us-witnessed-many-ice-related-deaths-in-2026-here-are-their-stories
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 191d
For a long time the powers that be have played us against eachother with "them and us" tactics. When its 'them' dying its not a problem, they might have had it coming, its a 'them' thing. When they do it to 'us', recent converts realise one of two things ; [we were all us all along and they played me for a fool] or [they're coming after us too].
Either way, they're now an ally. You can preach at them when this is over, and sort the 1st and 2nd kind apart at a more convenient time. Don't try and shame them for not coming onside sooner, it'll only create problems.
hector@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 190d
Curse of the left, exploited by the oligarchy, infighting. Half of members join left groups to kick the other half out.
vatlark@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 191d
I do think it's important that we check ourselves. Having a lot footage I think also plays a big role, George Floyd being another example.
I don't know of footage of the other ICE deaths, but maybe that's a bias at play.
hobovision@mander.xyz · 18 pts · 191d
There's also the "one death is a tragedy, 100 deaths is a statistic" situation happening.
Another factor is that these murders are breaking through to the folks that see the violence of arrests and raids and the deaths and injury of detainees more as a necessary cost. They can't justify these murders in their world view and they can empathize with them because they know these people did "nothing wrong" and were still killed. Maybe it could be them next?
definitemaybe@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 190d
The big difference with the two recent ICE murders is that the video evidence:
And they were both US citizens, so ICE has no jurisdiction. So it doesn't even matter if they were serial murderers—that's a police matter, not immigration. (And, obviously, being white and valued members of their communities matters, too.)
Contrast that with:
Plus, they're (mostly) not American citizens, so ICE could have a legal reason to detain them "with force" for "resisting arrest" (or whatever they want to spin).
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 191d
Ok well they're activated now bring em in
figjam@midwest.social · 5 pts · 191d
I guess nevermind then.
nik282000@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 191d
I have seen a lot of online chatter that starts with 'but he was a white guy'. Tells you a lot about the average american's view of the world.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 190d
Yes, but at the same time, they do care about these 2, so we should use their names. Putting individual faces to the victims is powerful, but if we put 100 faces out there's they all get lost in the crowd and it stops feeling personal.
streetfestival@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 191d
JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 191d
Pandantic@midwest.social · 25 pts · 191d
Official site: https://nationalshutdown.org/
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 191d
Tryna convince the parents at my wife's school, but they poorer than us. It's a "lock the copy room or parents will take the paper" district which pisses me off. First, I know someone who would gladly donate like ten grand of paper if they just asked. I think they just stingy
streetfestival@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 191d
Thanks, friend!
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 191d
There may also be a government shut down on that day, until Trump gets his way.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 191d
There are people out there who think these killings are random, and that all of this doesn't have a plan and method behind it. Jimmy Kimmel just went on TV suggesting both sides can agree these killings were a mistake.
People still don't get this is being done intentionally, so that there can be no legitimate democracy in 2028. Yet Kimmel is on TV asking for reasonable Republicans to speak up. Pretending this is all just government gone wrong by accident.
This isn't an accident or mistake. There's a method, intention, a plan... And one side of politics is all about it.
vapeloki@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 191d
I also think the goal is a civil war so the orange idiot can invoke Martial Law.
And that is the exact reason deescalation is so important
str82L@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 191d
Martial
vapeloki@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 191d
Thanks, fixed it.
Abundance114@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 191d
It's absolutely unintentional. No one from the U.S. government asked either Good or Pretti to show up on those days and obstruct and resist arrest.
Sorry but if you have mass scale organized obstruction of law enforcement it's inevitable that eventually something bad is going to happen; there's no other possible outcome.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 190d
Kaerkob@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 190d
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 190d
All in one state, even though ICE are nation wide.
Abundance114@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 190d
Well ya, if everyone in Alabama suddenly started organizing and resisting and obstructing the police, there would be a massive increase in policing and conflict; and probably lots of violent encounters with police that possibly leads to lethal force.
At the end of every law is a gun; if you resist the police for long enough, a gun will eventually come out.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 190d
ICE still aren't police.
Kaerkob@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 190d
Abundance114@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 190d
If you refuse to change that curb, then refuse the fine, then resist the arrest of seizure of property that ensues, then yes a gun comes out.
A law is just a suggestion if there is no capability of violent enforcement.
Kaerkob@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 190d
Abundance114@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 190d
A law with no enforcement is isn't a law. It's a line written in some legal code.
It's illegal to carry ice cream in your back pocket in Alabama, but there's a zero percent chance that you'll ever be charged with that.
What do you call something when there's a 0% chance of being charged with it as a crime? You call that legal.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 189d
That's not why, this is why:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Leakednews/comments/1qqco0e/i_am_stunned_by_this_video_this_is_the_problem/
Abundance114@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 189d
Oh. Shame on ICE for forcing people to assault them. They definitely shouldn't do anything to people who lay their hands on them... /s
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d
Just keeping you updated, do you think this is happening:
https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/comments/1qw2rjz/donald_trump_is_going_to_try_and_steal_the_us/
Abundance114@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 183d
I'm very curious how you wound up back on this topic nearly a week later.
Are you a computer?
Or are you really obsessed?
Perhaps something else?
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 182d
I asked my question first, you answer then I will answer your questions.
Abundance114@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 182d
The post was deleted. So I dunno how I feel about it.
Jhex@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 191d
Another weekend protest to minimize its own effect
one_step_behind@quokk.au · 48 pts · 191d
Perfect is the enemy of good.
The United States lacks a lot of organizing structures compared to other countries, as well as lacking the social safety nets. Let this be a stepping stone rather than a point for derision.
Jhex@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 190d
and with half ass efforts you continue your slide into fascism and drag the world down with it
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 190d
So what are you doing about it then?
Jhex@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 190d
Since I am not Murican, I am boycotting anything USA and keeping fascism out of my country
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 190d
Cool, then keep your half assed opinions to yourself until you can do more too, smoothbrain.
Jhex@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 190d
so? you are expecting the rest of the world to solve this mess for you?
Talk about entitled Muricans
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 190d
No, I'm saying that you're saying what we are doing isn't enough,as if you're doing anything at all.
Talk about entitled ignants.
streetfestival@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 191d
It's on a Friday. Aren't weekends Saturday and Sunday?
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 191d
Not according to my Minnesota food service employer that requires that I work every weekend (Friday-Sunday) or else get fired. Also, a LOT of places here do 4x10s (or at least give you the option) so the weekend is kind of Friday-Sunday
streetfestival@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 191d
Fair. I don't work in an M-F 9-5 industry either. I've never heard of 4x10. Is that a food service thing?
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 191d
No, it's not usually a food service thing. It's usually a manufacturing or an office thing. 4 day work week, ten hour days. 4x10s.
streetfestival@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 191d
Right on! In nursing, some of us do 3.5 x 12 (3 shifts one week, 4 the other). I like it!
valtia@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 191d
And yet people like you still can't commit to such an easy ask