Small budget cuts to the jackbooted thugs murdering you in the streets!
Slapping billionaires on the wrist in the court of public opinion, the only court that matters!
Allowing all of their legislation to get hung up by a rotating cast of party traitors and then backing them to the hilt when a progressive candidate primaries them!
Throwing money at healthcare industry donors to fix healthcare!
Restoring faith in American alliances by promising to look the other way when any of our pals decide to genocide those naughty minorities.
Gerrymandering, but this time it's us so it's cool!
Ahem. To be clear, I'll vote against Trump any chance I get, but we are still totally fucked until we get politicians that can actually stand for something that big business doesn't donate to.
Any that don't work with the corrupt DNC? I was curious with this one, but upon joining their discord saw that's all they wanted was supporting the people that compromise constantly with fascists instead of holding their ground and publicly telling them to go fuck themselves.
Nothing for my state from what I see on their candidates page so not sure what to do with them. I don't like donating to groups I haven't seen action from in person for. Like I adore PSL, but their only contact lately has been asking for donations and doing stuff on the other side of the country from me. DSA does stuff in my state, but I've gotta convince myself a 45 minute - 1 hour drive is worth it at 10 AM.
I've been doing that and, in a world where Democrats are actually interested in making the world better and more fair, maybe that would work.
The problem is that Democrats don't want that. They want to continue supporting big business, deporting "illegals", drone striking foreigners, making tons of money from corporate donations... But occasionally wave a rainbow flag. They want to keep our race into fascism under the speed limit, and are wondering why they're getting no traction with people who want to turn the fuck around.
If they had a platform that made even modest promises about taxing billionaires, bringing bloodsucking insurance companies and predatory banks to heel, getting the police in line etc. they'd have a wildly popular platform and they'd naturally stop trying to squash progressive candidates. But unfortunately, the corporations say fixing issues will make their stocks go down.
Ahem. To be clear, I'll vote against Trump any chance I get,
I think that's all anyone's really asking.
but we are still totally fucked until we get politicians that can actually stand for something that big business doesn't donate to.
The neat thing is anyone can enter any race. So. Y'know. They should do that. Instead, they're . . . not. Hell, the Democrats will give you classes on how to run a campaign for your specific area if you want.
PROTIP: it's not because politicians are evil individuals who are, en masse, conspiring against the will of the Proletariat(tm)
It's because political views in this country are fucked
We lose mostly fair and free elections, or win them only by a hair's breadth, because the overwhelming majority of people are not on our (leftist, socialist) side!
It doesn't matter what form of action you take - from voting to direct action to a fucking civil war - there is no lasting victory without solving that essential problem.
People who insist that the trouble is just that we haven't used the right means to force through our ideology into the government need to sit down and rethink their fucking lives.
it’s not because politicians are evil individuals who are, en masse, conspiring against the will of the Proletariat™
False. Democrats are very truly captured by the same forces of influence that pollute our political views. They are “en masse,” because they basically try to preserve their individual gravy trains by a form of collusion to keep the status quo.
No, voting will not fix the legal systems that are currently held captive by oligarchic interests. If you need proof look at the right wing influences perpetuated by botnets that have infected the electorate world over. Or if that's not enough for you look through the recently released Epstein(Trump) Files. That shows the FBI had knowledge about Trump's Pedophilia back in the 90's and did nothing to him.
The current legal systems can only be changed by working outside of them. All it takes is us grouping up and forcing those changes through. No longer should we tolerate The Billionaires' legal systems that keep us(The Working Class) enslaved.
So you were in Miami in 1980, moved to LA by 1992 and then were in Cincinnati by 2001. Perhaps you were active in 2020 but give me a break: The '90s? Fucking shenanigans.
Umm, which race riots would those be? Especially for the white guy in a ski mask?
NOT VOTING, is what caused this, for fuck's sake. If we HAD VOTED, this wouldn't be happening.
Trump is taking flak for the Epstein stuff, his embarrassments on the world stage and the crappy economy. We could be smart and use that to win Congress in November. Or we could be stupid and engage in indiscriminate violence which Trump the excuse to shut down the country.
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gustofwind@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 230d
You need both
Voting has changed a LOT and you don’t even need to look back one lifetime to see that. Violence can help push it along
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 230d
One thing that is just as effective, if not more, than pain and violence is the fear of pain and violence.
themoken@startrek.website · 28 pts · 230d
Vote Blue! Their platform includes
Small budget cuts to the jackbooted thugs murdering you in the streets!
Slapping billionaires on the wrist in the court of public opinion, the only court that matters!
Allowing all of their legislation to get hung up by a rotating cast of party traitors and then backing them to the hilt when a progressive candidate primaries them!
Throwing money at healthcare industry donors to fix healthcare!
Restoring faith in American alliances by promising to look the other way when any of our pals decide to genocide those naughty minorities.
Gerrymandering, but this time it's us so it's cool!
Ahem. To be clear, I'll vote against Trump any chance I get, but we are still totally fucked until we get politicians that can actually stand for something that big business doesn't donate to.
rigatti@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 230d
Vote bluer (progressive/DSA) in the primaries and then vote blue!
(I actually mean it though)
ameancow@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 230d
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 230d
Any that don't work with the corrupt DNC? I was curious with this one, but upon joining their discord saw that's all they wanted was supporting the people that compromise constantly with fascists instead of holding their ground and publicly telling them to go fuck themselves.
rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 230d
Leaders We Deserve is trying to primary establishment Dems in safe seats with actual progressive candidates.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 230d
Nothing for my state from what I see on their candidates page so not sure what to do with them. I don't like donating to groups I haven't seen action from in person for. Like I adore PSL, but their only contact lately has been asking for donations and doing stuff on the other side of the country from me. DSA does stuff in my state, but I've gotta convince myself a 45 minute - 1 hour drive is worth it at 10 AM.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 230d
Yeah, pretty much nobody voting in primaries is part of the reason we’re in this mess. It’s just old people for the most part
themoken@startrek.website · 5 pts · 230d
I've been doing that and, in a world where Democrats are actually interested in making the world better and more fair, maybe that would work.
The problem is that Democrats don't want that. They want to continue supporting big business, deporting "illegals", drone striking foreigners, making tons of money from corporate donations... But occasionally wave a rainbow flag. They want to keep our race into fascism under the speed limit, and are wondering why they're getting no traction with people who want to turn the fuck around.
If they had a platform that made even modest promises about taxing billionaires, bringing bloodsucking insurance companies and predatory banks to heel, getting the police in line etc. they'd have a wildly popular platform and they'd naturally stop trying to squash progressive candidates. But unfortunately, the corporations say fixing issues will make their stocks go down.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 230d
I think that's all anyone's really asking.
The neat thing is anyone can enter any race. So. Y'know. They should do that. Instead, they're . . . not. Hell, the Democrats will give you classes on how to run a campaign for your specific area if you want.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 230d
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 230d
40 to 50 percent of eligible voting Americans don't fucking vote and then complains that voting doesn't change things.
Fucking Ned Falnders' parents.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 10 pts · 230d
Why do you think voting doesn't fix issues?
PROTIP: it's not because politicians are evil individuals who are, en masse, conspiring against the will of the Proletariat(tm)
It's because political views in this country are fucked
We lose mostly fair and free elections, or win them only by a hair's breadth, because the overwhelming majority of people are not on our (leftist, socialist) side!
It doesn't matter what form of action you take - from voting to direct action to a fucking civil war - there is no lasting victory without solving that essential problem.
People who insist that the trouble is just that we haven't used the right means to force through our ideology into the government need to sit down and rethink their fucking lives.
itistime@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 230d
True
False. Democrats are very truly captured by the same forces of influence that pollute our political views. They are “en masse,” because they basically try to preserve their individual gravy trains by a form of collusion to keep the status quo.
ViceroTempus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 230d
No, voting will not fix the legal systems that are currently held captive by oligarchic interests. If you need proof look at the right wing influences perpetuated by botnets that have infected the electorate world over. Or if that's not enough for you look through the recently released Epstein(Trump) Files. That shows the FBI had knowledge about Trump's Pedophilia back in the 90's and did nothing to him.
The current legal systems can only be changed by working outside of them. All it takes is us grouping up and forcing those changes through. No longer should we tolerate The Billionaires' legal systems that keep us(The Working Class) enslaved.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 230d
What does that have to do with the legal system?
I haven't seen that, do you have a source?
All it takes is this extremely vague "grouping" and "forcing".
Not a whole lot making sense in this comment.
ViceroTempus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 230d
Been asleep, have you? https://www.reddit.com/r/suppressed_news/comments/1qrl3a8/some_random_stuff_from_latest_epstein_files/
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 230d
So you were in Miami in 1980, moved to LA by 1992 and then were in Cincinnati by 2001. Perhaps you were active in 2020 but give me a break: The '90s? Fucking shenanigans.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 230d
Or, and bear with me on this one because it is a crazy thought - maybe they are from a different part of the world that is not the USA.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 229d
Who gives a fuck then? Everyone is all, "HEY AMERICA, FIX YOUR SHIT!"
Well stop bitching and give us some sound advice.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 230d
I like this meme, but then I realize it could be just as easily posted by a MAGAt and my enjoyment is muted somewhat.
brianary@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 229d
False dichotomy bullshit. It's not enough, but to denegrate voting altogether is also stupid.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 230d
But don't forget that the next election is the most important of our lifetime! They say that since decades so it must be true
itistime@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 230d
We need historic voter turnout for these scenarios:
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 230d
12 votes can actually change a lot...
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 230d
Umm, which race riots would those be? Especially for the white guy in a ski mask?
NOT VOTING, is what caused this, for fuck's sake. If we HAD VOTED, this wouldn't be happening.
Trump is taking flak for the Epstein stuff, his embarrassments on the world stage and the crappy economy. We could be smart and use that to win Congress in November. Or we could be stupid and engage in indiscriminate violence which Trump the excuse to shut down the country.
kandoh@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 230d
Spoken like a guy who just spent his rent-gofundme money on Hasan Piker Twich subs and justifying it as mutual aid
gmtom@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 229d
Well they voted out the Nazis right????? Wait, or was it the peaceful protests that got rid of the Nazis? I forget.