Does Valve employ people at minimum wage? I've only heard good things about how much Valve employees make.
You know what was the original point right? About how Amazon makes its money off the backs of others being unfairly paid low wages.
And for arguments sake....
I agree billionaires shouldn't exist, and that any successful enterprise in a capitalist system is built on the exploitation of unfair wage distribution somewhere down the line (Steams could be it's hard 30% fee); but I don't think either of those were the implied point of the original post.
You could argue valve takes advantage of indie developers with their 30% fee. But you can also argue their games would likely never even be heard of if they dont put them on steam. Steam is more than a distribution service. Its a marketing service.
Steam also does things like distributing the game to players, keeping copies of it available, and paying for the network bandwidth for terabytes of data to be downloaded every single day.
I honestly do not get the hate against steam. 30% is a very reasonable cut of the profits in exchange for the service.
Steam is running a casino targeted at children and people with the mind of a child. This is kind of the only truly evil thing they do, but that's an undeniably evil thing to do.
Only because this thread is what it is, YSK that Amazon owns Goodreads. I can never actually remember the ethical alternatives, but DDG recommends several, including the one with my favorite name of the bunch:
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Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 36 pts · 212d
No, no, no - deduct food, housing, heat, etc costs, tax too. And ofc add inflation to those costs of living.
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 212d
Yeah, it won't count for me unless he has that much money in his savings account, and of course hell pays negative interest.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 212d
Doing the math with the salary of a major league sports player is also crazy to think about.
Earning the 2024 MLB average salary of 4.66 million USD per year, it’s 39,848 years. Before taxes and living expenses.
There’s simply no way he’s contributed that much value to society.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 212d
Same with all the billionaires including the Steam guy - if I believed in revenge rather than minimising suffering.
sgnl@midwest.social · 3 pts · 212d
Does Valve employ people at minimum wage? I've only heard good things about how much Valve employees make.
You know what was the original point right? About how Amazon makes its money off the backs of others being unfairly paid low wages.
And for arguments sake.... I agree billionaires shouldn't exist, and that any successful enterprise in a capitalist system is built on the exploitation of unfair wage distribution somewhere down the line (Steams could be it's hard 30% fee); but I don't think either of those were the implied point of the original post.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 212d
You could argue valve takes advantage of indie developers with their 30% fee. But you can also argue their games would likely never even be heard of if they dont put them on steam. Steam is more than a distribution service. Its a marketing service.
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 212d
Steam also does things like distributing the game to players, keeping copies of it available, and paying for the network bandwidth for terabytes of data to be downloaded every single day.
I honestly do not get the hate against steam. 30% is a very reasonable cut of the profits in exchange for the service.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 212d
Steam is running a casino targeted at children and people with the mind of a child. This is kind of the only truly evil thing they do, but that's an undeniably evil thing to do.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 212d
It would take even longer if it was Texas or Utah
zammy95@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
Yeah for real, that nine dollars an hour is a dollar and seventy five cents more than my states minimum.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 212d
That's only like a couple of weeks when compared to eternity. We should at least add tar and feathers. Also, for those in the know, a pineapple.
J92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 212d
It won't take as long as that. Hell's minimum wage isn't that bad.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 212d
There's a silver lining: He can pee in used water bottles to shave off some time.
freshcow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
Turns out it's 3 times that long if you work 8 hour days instead of 24 hour days. We'll let him work through the weekends though.
BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 212d
I’ll quietly leave a recommendation here for one of my favourite books
toynbee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 212d
Only because this thread is what it is, YSK that Amazon owns Goodreads. I can never actually remember the ethical alternatives, but DDG recommends several, including the one with my favorite name of the bunch:
https://bookwyrm.social/book/44622/s/a-short-stay-in-hell
BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 212d
Fair. Thanks for the headsup. Will look into the alternatives.