People still out here saying that Linux isn't user friendly while I all my friends never touched the terminal the whole time they use mint and steam os
I mean you could also open three terminals two left one right snapped to the side of the desktop, one runs htop the big one runs cmatrix and the bottem one is just ping 1.1.1.1
I mean from all the stuff you get at default I would recommend Mint just because you rarely ever have to touch the terminal and it just works. And well if you game alot and want a bit of console feeling steam os or bazzite. Well every distro can basically what every other distro can just the initial packag is differentĀ
Twelve years ago my brother's ex girlfriend's wife attended Bottles for Christ where she witnessed a fight between two emerging authors, one was a woman who's name escapes me but the title of her book was "the girl with the dog dick tits". She didn't take kindly to another authors adaptation of the classic "pizza clowns from space hell", claiming it was rubbish and a direct insult to writers. They argued over several bottles of wine until the referees announced the winner was a different author who had written a cookbook about making dinosaur sashimi. Everyone thought it was ridiculous because you would have to figure out time travel in order to even get dinosaur meat, that is until a young descendant of Alberto Weinstein came up with a way to incubate dinosaurs from nothing more than the DNA contained in oil. Unfortunately he died of sepsis before testing out his theory and no one ever got to eat dinosaur sashimi.
Bottles for Christ never happened again after that year, 32 people died of alcohol poisoning and another 210 were hospitalized with severe liver problems. At least those 32 people got to meet their Lord in the end so I guess bottles for Christ wasn't a complete waste of time.
there are already a lot of immutable Linux distros
Exactly. There are a lot, and that's confusing for most people. The fact that people have so many choices makes them less likely to switch. Most people want ease, simplicity and convenience.
Yeah, one more with the name recognition, like you mentioned. People don't know what Silverblue is, they don't know what an immutable distribution is, and, frankly, I don't think they're interested in learning. But they know Steam. Sad, perhaps, but true.
If they aren't interested in learning they will complain that MSO, Photoshop, Premiere doesn't work as well. Nobody is helped, everyone is miserable. They can just stay in their walled garden or even migrate over to the golden cage aka MacOS.
they will complain that MSO, Photoshop, Premiere doesn't work
That's true. They will. But maybe if enough users switch to SteamOS, Adobe, and other software developers might port their software to it. That's really the only hope for widespread Linux desktop adoption.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe more people will be willing to endure a learning curve for the freedom and openness of Linux, but I think that path to widespread Linux adoption would take a long time, if it happens at all.
But maybe if enough users switch to SteamOS, Adobe, and other software developers might port their software to it.
I'd probably wait for mass public service adoption of Linux in EU (China, India?) at the very least. They would port Adobe Acrobat first as their scout, and then we'd see what comes next.
In Russia the incertainity of Windows' availiability made local software companies consider, start testing or even produce releases for Linux because of FOMO. For global megacorps, there should be an incencitive, coming either from profits, out of fear or as a legal requirement.
Still have Windows 11 on my laptop just to get around the fact that some games that are definitely compatible won't start on my pc (also too lazy to get those games starting on there). The moment I have a Steam Machine I'm getting this laptop straight onto an operating system it deserves!!
Not exactly potato, but my performance on Linux sucks ass and I believe it's mostly due to drivers. I am mainly gaming as of now, so not running games I can run on Windows is no go.
GTX 750 + i-4460. So yeah, low end but servicable...on windows. Tried Linux Mint, Nobara and CachyOS. My benchmark was Fallout 76 and Hogwarts Legacy. On windows both work. On Linux, no matter the distro, Hogwarts dies pre "press start" and F76 blinks, lags and freezes. In both cases after I already set settings as low as I could, lot lower than Windows.
Oh and yeah I tried various fixes and tricks, used both steam proton and GE, tried to adjust commands. Nothing worked. And all I am asking for is to match windows performance.
you have to remember that proton is translating Windows software to Linux while you play so the fact that it works at all is pretty great, but of course it's not a great experience you've had!
Have you tried experimental proton versions in the compatibility settings? Also do you have the proprietary nvidia drivers?
Frankly Linux, especially gaming, is not ready without plenty of command-line foo
It's a native implementation of the win sys call libs, so it doesn't need to translate anything, but I see you meant like someone translated it, but you made it sound like it should somehow cost performance, as if it is being emulated or something.
Tried commands, tried proton experimental, tried gametime or whatever it's called, tried switching dx's and all that. And yeah, used proprietary, except on cachyOS which I believe supports my hardware out of the box.
And honestly, I didn't need co.mand line for anything when I tried and. Spent a week on it, made it mirror more or less my wi dows config software wise.
Only thing that, except gaming, pissed me off is Linux not being able to read my portable HDD. "Yadda yadda, suprblocm damaged, yadda yadda".
Windows, seemingly, didn't get the memo as it opens it without a problem.
Legacy nvidia hardware is not a great experience on linux. I have an nvidia kepler gpu that makes gaming on linux borderline possible. Soon as i got some new hardware, everything just started working.
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Rollade@lemmy.ml · 33 pts · 180d
People still out here saying that Linux isn't user friendly while I all my friends never touched the terminal the whole time they use mint and steam os
Little8Lost@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 180d
So now: open terminal -> type in "ping 172.0.0.1" -> fullscreen the terminal -> pretend to be hacker
ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de · 18 pts · 180d
Rollade@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 180d
I mean you could also open three terminals two left one right snapped to the side of the desktop, one runs htop the big one runs cmatrix and the bottem one is just ping 1.1.1.1
nil@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 180d
or even better, run btop
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 180d
Cat an html file.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 180d
That would actually have useful information on it though.
marcos@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 180d
jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 180d
*127.0.0.1
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 180d
Sudo dnf updateā¦
āOMG UR A HACKERā
arrrse@piefed.social · 5 pts · 180d
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 180d
Rollade@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 180d
I mean from all the stuff you get at default I would recommend Mint just because you rarely ever have to touch the terminal and it just works. And well if you game alot and want a bit of console feeling steam os or bazzite. Well every distro can basically what every other distro can just the initial packag is differentĀ
inari@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 180d
ZorinOS is very beginner friendly and visually similar to Windows, it's a good option to try.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 180d
MacaqueAndCheese@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 180d
Twelve years ago my brother's ex girlfriend's wife attended Bottles for Christ where she witnessed a fight between two emerging authors, one was a woman who's name escapes me but the title of her book was "the girl with the dog dick tits". She didn't take kindly to another authors adaptation of the classic "pizza clowns from space hell", claiming it was rubbish and a direct insult to writers. They argued over several bottles of wine until the referees announced the winner was a different author who had written a cookbook about making dinosaur sashimi. Everyone thought it was ridiculous because you would have to figure out time travel in order to even get dinosaur meat, that is until a young descendant of Alberto Weinstein came up with a way to incubate dinosaurs from nothing more than the DNA contained in oil. Unfortunately he died of sepsis before testing out his theory and no one ever got to eat dinosaur sashimi.
Bottles for Christ never happened again after that year, 32 people died of alcohol poisoning and another 210 were hospitalized with severe liver problems. At least those 32 people got to meet their Lord in the end so I guess bottles for Christ wasn't a complete waste of time.
EtherTide@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 180d
Honestly I'm 50/50 on whether this deserves downvotes bc on the one hand, wtf, who asked? On the other, it's c/memes, and this is a MEME
MacaqueAndCheese@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 180d
I just don't understand why there were so many authors at something called bottles for Christ. And why were there referees?
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 180d
How the fuck did you get me to read that whole thing? Bravo!
Lawnman23@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 180d
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 180d
Linux will really take off when Valve finally releases the desktop version of SteamOS.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 180d
Because of the name? Because there are already a lot of immutable Linux distros from which I really dig Silverblue or if you want KDE kinonite.
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 180d
Exactly. There are a lot, and that's confusing for most people. The fact that people have so many choices makes them less likely to switch. Most people want ease, simplicity and convenience.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 180d
And with SteamOS for Desktop there is one more. Yay...
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 180d
Yeah, one more with the name recognition, like you mentioned. People don't know what Silverblue is, they don't know what an immutable distribution is, and, frankly, I don't think they're interested in learning. But they know Steam. Sad, perhaps, but true.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · -1 pts · 180d
If they aren't interested in learning they will complain that MSO, Photoshop, Premiere doesn't work as well. Nobody is helped, everyone is miserable. They can just stay in their walled garden or even migrate over to the golden cage aka MacOS.
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 180d
That's true. They will. But maybe if enough users switch to SteamOS, Adobe, and other software developers might port their software to it. That's really the only hope for widespread Linux desktop adoption.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe more people will be willing to endure a learning curve for the freedom and openness of Linux, but I think that path to widespread Linux adoption would take a long time, if it happens at all.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 179d
I'd probably wait for mass public service adoption of Linux in EU (China, India?) at the very least. They would port Adobe Acrobat first as their scout, and then we'd see what comes next.
In Russia the incertainity of Windows' availiability made local software companies consider, start testing or even produce releases for Linux because of FOMO. For global megacorps, there should be an incencitive, coming either from profits, out of fear or as a legal requirement.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 180d
Isn't it obvious? What Linux really needs is a big ol' corporation to swoop in and give it a good PR boost. Worked really well the last time...
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 180d
Then fill it with closed source blobs and turn the original platform into obsolity.
Adeptus_Obsoletus@piefed.social · 1 pts · 179d
Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 180d
Iām waiting for the Steam Machine. Iām lazy.
(Linux since 1995. But desktops are Windows 10 and macOS.)
linux_penguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 179d
Still have Windows 11 on my laptop just to get around the fact that some games that are definitely compatible won't start on my pc (also too lazy to get those games starting on there). The moment I have a Steam Machine I'm getting this laptop straight onto an operating system it deserves!!
sirico@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 180d
Ublue life just push the button
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 180d
Tried to. It doesn't like my pc. Not buying new rig for it. Win 10 LTSC it is. ^^
( Honestly tho if you have modern hardware in any meaning of the word, try it. )
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 180d
If you've got a potato, try Linux Mint or one of the extra light distros, like PuppyLinux
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 180d
Not exactly potato, but my performance on Linux sucks ass and I believe it's mostly due to drivers. I am mainly gaming as of now, so not running games I can run on Windows is no go.
GTX 750 + i-4460. So yeah, low end but servicable...on windows. Tried Linux Mint, Nobara and CachyOS. My benchmark was Fallout 76 and Hogwarts Legacy. On windows both work. On Linux, no matter the distro, Hogwarts dies pre "press start" and F76 blinks, lags and freezes. In both cases after I already set settings as low as I could, lot lower than Windows.
Oh and yeah I tried various fixes and tricks, used both steam proton and GE, tried to adjust commands. Nothing worked. And all I am asking for is to match windows performance.
naught@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 180d
you have to remember that proton is translating Windows software to Linux while you play so the fact that it works at all is pretty great, but of course it's not a great experience you've had!
Have you tried experimental proton versions in the compatibility settings? Also do you have the proprietary nvidia drivers?
Frankly Linux, especially gaming, is not ready without plenty of command-line foo
Magnum@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 180d
WINE is not an emulator!
naught@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 180d
translating! not emulating!!! (not sure what the appropriate word is)
Magnum@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 179d
It's a native implementation of the win sys call libs, so it doesn't need to translate anything, but I see you meant like someone translated it, but you made it sound like it should somehow cost performance, as if it is being emulated or something.
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 180d
Tried commands, tried proton experimental, tried gametime or whatever it's called, tried switching dx's and all that. And yeah, used proprietary, except on cachyOS which I believe supports my hardware out of the box.
And honestly, I didn't need co.mand line for anything when I tried and. Spent a week on it, made it mirror more or less my wi dows config software wise.
Only thing that, except gaming, pissed me off is Linux not being able to read my portable HDD. "Yadda yadda, suprblocm damaged, yadda yadda".
Windows, seemingly, didn't get the memo as it opens it without a problem.
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 180d
Legacy nvidia hardware is not a great experience on linux. I have an nvidia kepler gpu that makes gaming on linux borderline possible. Soon as i got some new hardware, everything just started working.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 179d
Oh what? My IP camera? My weather station? Should I install Linux on my doorbell?
Many things are better without Linux in 2026.
I own multiple Linux machines. I love them. They aren't for everything.