Instead of using a video format as a modern replacement, can't we just invent a better Gif format? Gif is somwhere inbetween picture and video formats. Maybe a simple container with a meta & settings file (speed & so on), similiar to comicbook?
Yeah thats kinda my problem with arch.... ive never found it easy to use or useful. Every actual usecase other than it being "cool" is filled by distros much more adapted. Actually want a system from scratch? Gentoo. Want to make it deployable and dependable? Nixos. Want something rock stable? Debian. Arch never had any appeal for me(focus on me here).
You want little bit of the ability to customize everything without having to compile from scratch every time? You want a well documented system that has excellent documentation and a community that digs into most edge cases? You want upstream fixes ASAP because your team of volunteers are struggling to backport fixes?
It has its place. I'm saying this as someone who uses Debian and red hat derivatives extensively.
To me slow roll, tumbleweed and fedora were good contenders for the same slot but none of them let you completely fuck around with the design like Arch does.
Yeah i get that, but also it has some huuuge problems. A very large part of arch users rely on the aur which is horrible from a security standpoint and in general for usability. If arch made its package distribution better it would be a really solid distro with a lot of merits. Of course if you get arround the package management woes its a good system to use. As for nix you dont actually re-build your system every time you change something cause you also do that technically when you boot, tho not in the sense of building software from source, it just links everything so its accessible.
I think it's sort of a big problem to solve because there's no corporate backing or down stream derivatives contributing a lot back, making a fully curated repo hard to achieve. I wouldn't mind a fully vetted AUR either but I don't think the community can get there with the current resources.
Nix honestly sounds really awesome. When I tried it long, it kept on running into edge cases for things that weren't really working well like properitery drivers or old ass packages that needed a lot of workarounds. It sounds like it would be amazing on a server/vm.
I have an old laptop which I use to install various distros and play around with them. One time I tried to install arch. Like the very first step was to manually configure the network interface using some cli in some weird unknown shell environment provided by the installer.
That sat there at that step untouched for a day or two, then I installed some other distro.
Hmmm I don't remember the specifics but I think some parts of the system broke on me and I didn't have the patience to fix it. So I switched and have been very happy thus far running Fedora KDE.
78 Comments
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 110 pts · 202d
So that's which its called pacman
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 85 pts · 202d
duh... it's a [pac]kage [man]ager. Why else would it be called that?
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 24 pts · 202d
So no relation?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 201d
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 5 pts · 201d
lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 200d
Snoop Dog.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 200d
That is why it was renamed pacman.
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 2 pts · 202d
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 202d
clearly not to violate any trademarks
Ooops@feddit.org · 41 pts · 202d
ILoveCandy
30p87@feddit.org · 10 pts · 202d
echo "Defaults insults" | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers.d/custom.conf
Ooops@feddit.org · 10 pts · 202d
Defaults badpass_message="YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 32 pts · 202d
I use endeavourOS because of auto installed yogurt (I am lazy)
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 32 pts · 202d
sry, but I'm lactose intolerant. So I guess, another win for CachyOS.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 202d
is yogurt still developed? I thought it was dead a long time ago and everyone went to yay
tempest@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 202d
It's been yay on endeavours for its entire existence I think.
Install arch the arch way once or twice. After that use endeavouros because I don't need to spend the time.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 202d
spend the time? on what? archinstall and go
everyone that things arch is a major time investment is ignorant
tempest@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 202d
I mean that's just your choice of software installer at this point.
Endeavoros just has a GUI and installs KDE for me.
The end result for us is nearly the same thing.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 199d
But yay is just yet another yoghurt…
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 199d
I see what you did there
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 202d
Hi fellow EOS user, this is my first time hearing about computer yogurt.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 199d
Yea, because it is yet another
eager_eagle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
my EOS shipped with yay
Ghostie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 201d
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 199d
Yes, because it is yet another yoghurt
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 202d
I can't believe nobody else has pointed out.... BRO when you set ILoveCandy also SET
color
make that shit legit. I use arch, as you can tell, btw
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 12 pts · 202d
It is set but GIFs simply hate colors.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 202d
256 color limit is a harsh mistress
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 202d
Instead of using a video format as a modern replacement, can't we just invent a better Gif format? Gif is somwhere inbetween picture and video formats. Maybe a simple container with a meta & settings file (speed & so on), similiar to comicbook?
callyral@pawb.social · 3 pts · 202d
video but with a "loops", "has controls visible" and "remove audio" setting
so it doesn't even have to be part of the video format, just muted mp4 or webm with looping and UI settings
RobertoMorrison@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
Well there's APNG (animated png). It's even "backwards" compatible with the regular PNG file format.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 201d
OH
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 202d
Yeah thats kinda my problem with arch.... ive never found it easy to use or useful. Every actual usecase other than it being "cool" is filled by distros much more adapted. Actually want a system from scratch? Gentoo. Want to make it deployable and dependable? Nixos. Want something rock stable? Debian. Arch never had any appeal for me(focus on me here).
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 201d
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 201d
Yeah the documentation is just amazing. Even on nixos i often use the arch wiki to find things cause a lot of it applies to linux generally.
Johanno@feddit.org · 1 pts · 201d
Yeah but the nixos Wiki is growing.
You could write down your findings in it.
I suggest to use the official one.
wiki.nixos.org
Reliant1087@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 201d
You want little bit of the ability to customize everything without having to compile from scratch every time? You want a well documented system that has excellent documentation and a community that digs into most edge cases? You want upstream fixes ASAP because your team of volunteers are struggling to backport fixes?
It has its place. I'm saying this as someone who uses Debian and red hat derivatives extensively.
To me slow roll, tumbleweed and fedora were good contenders for the same slot but none of them let you completely fuck around with the design like Arch does.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 201d
Yeah i get that, but also it has some huuuge problems. A very large part of arch users rely on the aur which is horrible from a security standpoint and in general for usability. If arch made its package distribution better it would be a really solid distro with a lot of merits. Of course if you get arround the package management woes its a good system to use. As for nix you dont actually re-build your system every time you change something cause you also do that technically when you boot, tho not in the sense of building software from source, it just links everything so its accessible.
Reliant1087@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
I think it's sort of a big problem to solve because there's no corporate backing or down stream derivatives contributing a lot back, making a fully curated repo hard to achieve. I wouldn't mind a fully vetted AUR either but I don't think the community can get there with the current resources.
Nix honestly sounds really awesome. When I tried it long, it kept on running into edge cases for things that weren't really working well like properitery drivers or old ass packages that needed a lot of workarounds. It sounds like it would be amazing on a server/vm.
festnt@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 201d
arch is a little bit of each of those things
SAF77@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 202d
I use mint because I'm too old and impatient for the more setup-heavy stuff.
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 9 pts · 202d
CachyOS
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 202d
I have an old laptop which I use to install various distros and play around with them. One time I tried to install arch. Like the very first step was to manually configure the network interface using some cli in some weird unknown shell environment provided by the installer. That sat there at that step untouched for a day or two, then I installed some other distro.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 201d
Uhhh
That's
That has not been my experience with Arch for maybe a decade
diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 201d
KraeuterRoy@feddit.org · 11 pts · 202d
Love the playfulness and the name itself...but I'm lazy and apt is shorter and quicker to type. I'm torn...
albbi@piefed.ca · 30 pts · 202d
There's 'yay' which is a Pacman helper. And honestly I love typing it because it makes me happy
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 26 pts · 202d
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 20 pts · 202d
alias lzy="pacman -Syu"thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 202d
or install yay and you don't even have to sudo (it still asks but you dont have to type it)
voodooattack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
-yuSis easier to remember/withdraws slowly
felsiq@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 202d
Apt is shorter, sure, but
apt update && apt install …is much longer thanpacman -S …so you should definitely switch/jk
KraeuterRoy@feddit.org · 4 pts · 202d
I am toyimg with the idea to switch my Thinkpad over to a new distro...so maybe I will ;)
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 202d
I use Cachy for the same reason :P
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 202d
Ascend910@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 201d
C c o would be better
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
[-----C o o o o o o o o o o o o o ]
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 202d
Wait is that pacman? Had it always done that?
Flipper@feddit.org · 16 pts · 202d
Its a config option. Add ILoveCandy in the options.
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 202d
That's revolutionary, I need to switch back to arch in this case
meow@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 202d
What are you on now?
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 202d
Probably meth, if they are thinking of switching back to arch.
meow@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 202d
Or estrogen... But then, maybe they'd go for something like Gentoo...
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 202d
Fedora, my beloved
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 7 pts · 202d
meow@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 202d
And why did you switch? Id love to know :3
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 202d
Hmmm I don't remember the specifics but I think some parts of the system broke on me and I didn't have the patience to fix it. So I switched and have been very happy thus far running Fedora KDE.
creed10@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
oh does that work with yay?
i always run
yay -Syuto keep my AUR packages synced toofunbreaker@piefed.social · 4 pts · 202d
I usually use yay but I do appreciate the whimsy in pacman
felsiq@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 202d
Yay uses pacman for the official repositories, so you can still use this setting if you want
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 4 pts · 200d
First post made here using a grapheneOS phone.
Sxan@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 202d
Kial ne ambaŭ?
Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org · 4 pts · 202d
funbreaker@piefed.social · 6 pts · 202d
It's Esperanto for "Why not both?"
tauonite@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
kial ri tie ĉi esperanton parolus
funbreaker@piefed.social · 1 pts · 202d
Oh no, Sxan speaks English. They just use the wonderful letter thorn þ instead of th most of the time.
Sxan@piefed.zip · -1 pts · 201d
I couldn't remember þe correct way to write þe Spanish meme version, "¿Por qué no los dos?".
Obnomus@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 201d
YES
Winter_Oven@piefed.social · 3 pts · 202d
it does look amazing
jdr@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 200d
... this time for Africa
mal3oon@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 202d
Choose one.