I dont see the issue, obviously they'll just pull themselves up by their bootstraps and win the war, it was easy back in their day so it'll be easy for them now. Kids today are just lazy
No doubt. In response to such a joke, boomers would take credit for a time when the military was successful. My reply is an attempt to preemptively take the wind out of their sails.
Nah, to partisan. Id agree with, if your representative doesn't vote in the war time resolution to not go to war, then you are added to the draft list. Doesn't matter if you are a Republican, Democrat, independent, or didn't vote. It would make the representative actually have to represent their constituents, and face the wrath of their constituents if they go against them. (Also, no one exempt from the draft, don't look at age, sex, wealth etc. random selection off of everyone). If your 76 year old grandma gets called to go, she goes. Overweight? You'll probably die in boot camp.
It would probably end all wars ever from starting involving our country ever again, lol
You want to send grandma and grandpa to war? They fought in Korea and Viet Nam, and some of them in the Gulf War. They're sick of war. And, while some of them are MAGA, they are those who voted for "no new wars" and are now pissed at Trump.
Bernie is a boomer and so are many of the people who support and voted for him.
If you want to stop being painted with one brush, be the change you want to see. It's not a generational war, it's a fucking class war.
How about we send the people who support it, and started it--the filthy rich?
Discrete generations aren't even a real thing. The idea that 2 people born in consecutive years are in different generations is absurd. They have more in common than 2 people born at the opposite ends of a generation label.
Bernie isn't a boomer. He's actually so old he's in the silent generation that was before the boomers. 1941. Basically he was born before WW2 ended, so no one came back and had all the wreckless sex starting the baby boom yet
Nah Vietnam was because there cold war was too cold and that's not good for military industrial complex. 60k people is not really enough to make a huge difference in housing.
I ran into an elderly man at the grocery store this weekend, proudly wearing a crisp new "Trump 2028" baseball cap. Make his dumb ass a front-lines infantryman.
I mean modern weapons are so easy to use that even the elderly can be effective with them. I agree, let's draft them. More jobs, more houses for real Americans
There is a compelling argument to partially revert to the days of warrior kings. Every government who wants war has to be conscripted to fight on the front lines.
Is this community no longer going to be about posting shitposts? Because if I want political posts then I can get that from the many politics communities that already exist, or by reading newspapers.
lol old people hate. Because blaming any other group for the world’s problems is very bad…. It’s as if the boomer generation was obligated to create utopia; not any generation previous or since. Just them. And when the last of them have died off, the youngins will scapegoat whoever is old in that time. So Millennials, you might want to get your excuses ready; you didn’t leave the world a better place for them…
The baby boomer generation holds 51.1% of the total populations wealth. They watched Regan rise to power, strip new deal legislation, neuter unions, kill millions with the AIDS crisis, and funnel cocaine into minority neighborhoods. In response to all that, the baby boomers... elected him to a second term. You all have had a literal lifetime to take that wealth and fight for the future generations to have a better life. Instead of doing that, the vocal majority told ALL OF US (Gen X, Gen Y, Millenials, Gen Z and now Gen Alpha) that we are entitled little shits who are lazy, and need to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.
If you want the old people hate to stop, maybe look at your peers and get them to realize the mess that has been made fell largely on your shoulders to clean up, and you did nothing.
Maybe you've spent your whole life protesting and promoting progressive candidates. I dont know you. I only know the statistics and history about the generations. If you have been fighting for progress your whole life, thats great and I'm happy you did that. but understand when people say things like the OP, it isnt directed at those who tried to make a positive change, it's directed at the majority who sat around and let fascism happen.
I’ve heard stats presented that way all my life, usually in terms of “immigrants”, “Jews”, “Catholics” , etc. You want to look up some stats? Look at voter turnout amongst young people. Or the population of the United States vs available land, 1960’s to present. Or look up post war economic booms and how they affect things.
Here we are, with decades of low voter turnout, a waning economy that is completely gamed not by an age group but by the wealthy, and too many people to allow the old ways of “growth” to work anymore.
And somehow amidst that we’ve decided that part of our very identity is the range of years in which we were born. Who decided what a boomer or millennial or gen X/Z/Alpha is? Was it a consensus amongst social scientists? Or was it something more useful for marketing strategy?
I reject your comment outright. Everything you said was perpetuated (or not) by the entirety of people living in that/this time. We are all part of this world and othering a group of people, i.e. scapegoating others does jackshit for solving our problems.
Ah yes, we're all just one collective! Of course! No one has any defining traits that would make them vote one way or another. Were all a hivemind without any characteristics and its the young peoples fault for having no faith in the current government system that was completely fucking destroyed by Regan's policies. It is the fault of the people who were not even born yet and have no wealth, living paycheck to paycheck. It is the fault of the single mother with 3 jobs thay she couldn't vote. It is the fault of the 2nd generational immigrant that they got deported to a county they've never set foot in. It is definitely not the older generations fault for not standing up to this shit while it was being set up, its the people who werent even a semen in their daddy's ballsacks fault
but actually were all one group and have no differences, so its really no ones fault. this was inevitable and could not have been prevented.
Millenials don't run anything. The senate is still dominated by Boomers and the Reps are dominated by Boomers and Gen X. Boomers have been holding on to jobs so long that by time they die it will be Zoomers time to step up.
Steven Miller, JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, Elise Stefanik, and Tulsi Gabbard all hold ranking positions in the federal bureaucracy. The average age of an ICE agent is 40, with plenty coming into the organization in their 20s. The average age of US military leadership is 44 (by design). The average age of US mayors is 50. The average CEO is 54, with newer executives tending to the high 40s. The average US voter's age is 43.
Millenials run plenty.
The senate is still dominated by Boomers and the Reps are dominated by Boomers and Gen X
And they've done nothing substantial to affect the Unitary Executive government. They're perfectly happy to just sit on their hands while the younger and more aggressive leadership take the lead. They don't control the money in a material sense, either. Lobbyists, DC staffers, and campaign bundlers all skew much younger. Dianne Feinstein was drooling into her oatmeal while her Chief of Staff James Sauls was making all her decisions.
Charlie Kirk was a mere 31 years young when he was abruptly unalived. He'd been slopping around a campaign war chest of $85M - more than most sitting governors - in an effort to influence elections through the American southwest.
The fuck it is, we were students during 9/11 and watched our peers get fucked up and die in Iraq and Afghanistan for no reason. The conversion of SCOTUS to conservative and the godamn Patriot Act was already in place before most of us could even vote. The only millennials with the wealth to change anything are nepo babies with fascist dreams who never suffered when the economy collapsed, twice.
we were students during 9/11 and watched our peers get fucked up and die in Iraq and Afghanistan for no reason
Pretty sure there was a reason. The Cheney family fortune ballooned during those eight years. Nevermind the hedge fund sector. Hank Paulson made out like a bandit.
The conversion of SCOTUS to conservative and the godamn Patriot Act was already in place before most of us could even vote.
And then 20 years passed, and Millennials did what about it? Send JD Vance to the Senate? Put a trillion dollars into Bitcoin to gamble on rigged sports games? Spend half a career inflating the profits of Facebook and Palantir and the O&G industry or just straight up becoming cops?
The only millennials with the wealth to change anything are nepo babies with fascist dreams
Because y'all never unionized. You never got over your fear of migrants or your love of Ring Cameras. You never even logged off Twitter.
Millennials bought the poison pill of Boomerism without even getting the cheap homes or the good jobs.
Millennials embraced fascism chasing the American Dream. And now here we are, with hundreds of thousands of you fuckers wearing ICE badges so you can cover your Cybertruck notes and credit card debts.
65 Comments
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 180 pts · 194d
I dont see the issue, obviously they'll just pull themselves up by their bootstraps and win the war, it was easy back in their day so it'll be easy for them now. Kids today are just lazy
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 194d
I don’t think Vietnam is views as easy nor was it successful.
nonius@lemmy.zip · 62 pts · 194d
Seems the comment you replied to was a joke, friend
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 194d
No doubt. In response to such a joke, boomers would take credit for a time when the military was successful. My reply is an attempt to preemptively take the wind out of their sails.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 193d
What do you mean? Vietnam was successful at destroying free press so no conflict after it would ever show the people the true horrors of war.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 193d
Right wingers literally think the US won every single war its fought. Even when it accomplished none of its objectives.
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 193d
Vietnam war medals are participation trophies.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 93 pts · 194d
Draft the rich. Working class solidarity is fundamental for revolution. Boomers and Zoomers need to co-operate to defeat the Epstein class.
pulsey@feddit.org · 39 pts · 193d
if they would start drafting the rich, wars would suddenly stop and there would be world peace.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 14 pts · 193d
There are many, many millions more of us than there are of them. If we can organize, we can make it happen.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 9 pts · 193d
Soldiers would suddenly make tax free millions while not actually going to warzones. They'd still rape children, like real soldiers
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 193d
This is exactly the time, send them off to die for the bullshit they voted for.
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 194d
Tja@programming.dev · 8 pts · 193d
Did it work??
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 193d
deacon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 193d
If you want to be punished I can connect you with some people.
ygurin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 193d
It would also solve the global birth rates declining, just saying...
MTZ@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 193d
5 problems at once. 😁
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 194d
How about just republicans. If you vote for trump, it automatically signs you up for the draft.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 193d
Nah, to partisan. Id agree with, if your representative doesn't vote in the war time resolution to not go to war, then you are added to the draft list. Doesn't matter if you are a Republican, Democrat, independent, or didn't vote. It would make the representative actually have to represent their constituents, and face the wrath of their constituents if they go against them. (Also, no one exempt from the draft, don't look at age, sex, wealth etc. random selection off of everyone). If your 76 year old grandma gets called to go, she goes. Overweight? You'll probably die in boot camp.
It would probably end all wars ever from starting involving our country ever again, lol
uberdroog@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 193d
Send ICE
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 194d
You want to send grandma and grandpa to war? They fought in Korea and Viet Nam, and some of them in the Gulf War. They're sick of war. And, while some of them are MAGA, they are those who voted for "no new wars" and are now pissed at Trump.
Bernie is a boomer and so are many of the people who support and voted for him.
If you want to stop being painted with one brush, be the change you want to see. It's not a generational war, it's a fucking class war.
How about we send the people who support it, and started it--the filthy rich?
shane@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 193d
Definitely. Generational divide is another tool of capital to reduce solidarity of the working class.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 193d
Discrete generations aren't even a real thing. The idea that 2 people born in consecutive years are in different generations is absurd. They have more in common than 2 people born at the opposite ends of a generation label.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 193d
Bernie isn't a boomer. He's actually so old he's in the silent generation that was before the boomers. 1941. Basically he was born before WW2 ended, so no one came back and had all the wreckless sex starting the baby boom yet
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 194d
Would also be legit hilarious.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 193d
Complaining about age discrimination? OKAY
welcome to the US Army, private.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 193d
Dude why do you think they had Vietnam?
Wasn't enough houses, colleges, and jobs for all of the boomers that were coming of age.
Cull the herd a bit. Get the ones that couldn't afford to avoid it into the military. Problem solved.
Not enough? Have a domestic war on "drugs", selectively target blacks and Latinos, and give them free housing in a state or federal prison.
BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 193d
puts blunt down coz shit just got too real
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 193d
Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some dick for marijuana?
-- Bobby Kennedy
Or maybe Bobby Sagat. Either way.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 193d
Nah Vietnam was because there cold war was too cold and that's not good for military industrial complex. 60k people is not really enough to make a huge difference in housing.
Agrivar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 193d
I ran into an elderly man at the grocery store this weekend, proudly wearing a crisp new "Trump 2028" baseball cap. Make his dumb ass a front-lines infantryman.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 193d
I mean modern weapons are so easy to use that even the elderly can be effective with them. I agree, let's draft them. More jobs, more houses for real Americans
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 193d
Dude, I have trouble operating a cell phone.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 2 pts · 193d
It's just like their videogames on the AARP website.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 193d
Silly child, we send the young and poor to die. Welcome to Humanity.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 193d
I mean, with modern drone armies, there's less and less need to restrict the draft to they young...
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 193d
The Old Bastards have proven the "need" did not exist during World War II. Doubt it existed at any point after that.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 193d
Can you imagine how horrific it would be for the sergeants to wrangle a squad or platoon of boomers and actually get anything accomplished?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 193d
they're gung ho until they have to sleep in a tent
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 193d
There is a compelling argument to partially revert to the days of warrior kings. Every government who wants war has to be conscripted to fight on the front lines.
Redvenom@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 193d
Let them show us how "lift yourself up by your bootstraps" work
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 193d
Well if it's working for the Ukraine. ...
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 193d
Old Man's War by John Scalzi
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 193d
Thanks to Amazon there should be a good 40,000 houses available pretty soon.
lumettaria@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 193d
I'm cackling for this one folks
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 193d
And they all seem to know so goddamn much, I’m sure they’d be really effective on the battlefield.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 193d
Is this community no longer going to be about posting shitposts? Because if I want political posts then I can get that from the many politics communities that already exist, or by reading newspapers.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 193d
Seriously, I love the actual shitposts posted here but most of the time it feels like I've accidentally subscribed to USA politics or something
modestmeme@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 193d
lol old people hate. Because blaming any other group for the world’s problems is very bad…. It’s as if the boomer generation was obligated to create utopia; not any generation previous or since. Just them. And when the last of them have died off, the youngins will scapegoat whoever is old in that time. So Millennials, you might want to get your excuses ready; you didn’t leave the world a better place for them…
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 193d
You skipped Gen X. Typical.
modestmeme@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 193d
Gen X owes you nothing
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 193d
Slacker.
MTZ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 193d
Lmaooo
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 193d
The baby boomer generation holds 51.1% of the total populations wealth. They watched Regan rise to power, strip new deal legislation, neuter unions, kill millions with the AIDS crisis, and funnel cocaine into minority neighborhoods. In response to all that, the baby boomers... elected him to a second term. You all have had a literal lifetime to take that wealth and fight for the future generations to have a better life. Instead of doing that, the vocal majority told ALL OF US (Gen X, Gen Y, Millenials, Gen Z and now Gen Alpha) that we are entitled little shits who are lazy, and need to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.
If you want the old people hate to stop, maybe look at your peers and get them to realize the mess that has been made fell largely on your shoulders to clean up, and you did nothing.
Maybe you've spent your whole life protesting and promoting progressive candidates. I dont know you. I only know the statistics and history about the generations. If you have been fighting for progress your whole life, thats great and I'm happy you did that. but understand when people say things like the OP, it isnt directed at those who tried to make a positive change, it's directed at the majority who sat around and let fascism happen.
modestmeme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 193d
I’ve heard stats presented that way all my life, usually in terms of “immigrants”, “Jews”, “Catholics” , etc. You want to look up some stats? Look at voter turnout amongst young people. Or the population of the United States vs available land, 1960’s to present. Or look up post war economic booms and how they affect things.
Here we are, with decades of low voter turnout, a waning economy that is completely gamed not by an age group but by the wealthy, and too many people to allow the old ways of “growth” to work anymore.
And somehow amidst that we’ve decided that part of our very identity is the range of years in which we were born. Who decided what a boomer or millennial or gen X/Z/Alpha is? Was it a consensus amongst social scientists? Or was it something more useful for marketing strategy?
I reject your comment outright. Everything you said was perpetuated (or not) by the entirety of people living in that/this time. We are all part of this world and othering a group of people, i.e. scapegoating others does jackshit for solving our problems.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 193d
Ah yes, we're all just one collective! Of course! No one has any defining traits that would make them vote one way or another. Were all a hivemind without any characteristics and its the young peoples fault for having no faith in the current government system that was completely fucking destroyed by Regan's policies. It is the fault of the people who were not even born yet and have no wealth, living paycheck to paycheck. It is the fault of the single mother with 3 jobs thay she couldn't vote. It is the fault of the 2nd generational immigrant that they got deported to a county they've never set foot in. It is definitely not the older generations fault for not standing up to this shit while it was being set up, its the people who werent even a semen in their daddy's ballsacks fault
but actually were all one group and have no differences, so its really no ones fault. this was inevitable and could not have been prevented.
modestmeme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 193d
I said none of that. And the older generation “not standing up to this shit”? Quite a few did. And quite a few in previous generations did as well.
And quite a few people from whatever “generation” you fancy yourself a member also work for a better world.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -26 pts · 194d
Except this is a War by, of, and for Millennials
Everyone who said they wanted to fight radical islamism - now is your chance. Make Joe Rogan a General and let him lead his army to victory
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 194d
Generational cohort analysis has no business here.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 194d
Applause
"Hey hey! Enough of this generation blaming!"
:-/
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 194d
Millenials don't run anything. The senate is still dominated by Boomers and the Reps are dominated by Boomers and Gen X. Boomers have been holding on to jobs so long that by time they die it will be Zoomers time to step up.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/01/16/age-and-generation-in-the-119th-congress-somewhat-younger-with-fewer-boomers-and-more-gen-xers/
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 193d
Steven Miller, JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, Elise Stefanik, and Tulsi Gabbard all hold ranking positions in the federal bureaucracy. The average age of an ICE agent is 40, with plenty coming into the organization in their 20s. The average age of US military leadership is 44 (by design). The average age of US mayors is 50. The average CEO is 54, with newer executives tending to the high 40s. The average US voter's age is 43.
Millenials run plenty.
And they've done nothing substantial to affect the Unitary Executive government. They're perfectly happy to just sit on their hands while the younger and more aggressive leadership take the lead. They don't control the money in a material sense, either. Lobbyists, DC staffers, and campaign bundlers all skew much younger. Dianne Feinstein was drooling into her oatmeal while her Chief of Staff James Sauls was making all her decisions.
Charlie Kirk was a mere 31 years young when he was abruptly unalived. He'd been slopping around a campaign war chest of $85M - more than most sitting governors - in an effort to influence elections through the American southwest.
These are the people running the country.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 14 pts · 194d
The fuck it is, we were students during 9/11 and watched our peers get fucked up and die in Iraq and Afghanistan for no reason. The conversion of SCOTUS to conservative and the godamn Patriot Act was already in place before most of us could even vote. The only millennials with the wealth to change anything are nepo babies with fascist dreams who never suffered when the economy collapsed, twice.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 194d
Pretty sure there was a reason. The Cheney family fortune ballooned during those eight years. Nevermind the hedge fund sector. Hank Paulson made out like a bandit.
And then 20 years passed, and Millennials did what about it? Send JD Vance to the Senate? Put a trillion dollars into Bitcoin to gamble on rigged sports games? Spend half a career inflating the profits of Facebook and Palantir and the O&G industry or just straight up becoming cops?
Because y'all never unionized. You never got over your fear of migrants or your love of Ring Cameras. You never even logged off Twitter.
Millennials bought the poison pill of Boomerism without even getting the cheap homes or the good jobs.
Millennials embraced fascism chasing the American Dream. And now here we are, with hundreds of thousands of you fuckers wearing ICE badges so you can cover your Cybertruck notes and credit card debts.
Tja@programming.dev · 10 pts · 193d
Famous millennial, senile and bloated trump.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 193d
Sort of the joke. "Trump's brain dead! He's being led around by the nose!"
"Okay, who is leading him around"
glances at the Millennial/GenX cabinet "Trump is playing 11D chess!"