It's absolutely a bargain, they are joining a system the member states pay for, so it's fair that they have to pay something.
And for Switzerland this is peanuts for having access to the single market.
I'm not complaining, I think it's absolutely great that Switzerland and EU are working together. Just like er do with Norway, and UK/EU relations are also improving fast currently. Thumb up all around.
The way the EU works it would the other way around. Swiss populists would prevent anything from getting done unless it's more instutionalised xenophobia.
Yup! They can pay less too. They could pay nothing! Or they could not have this agreement at all. Lots of possibilities.
Seems pretty beneficial to everyone. EU gets more money to accomplish EU objectives at almost no cost. Swissy benefits from market access with less barriers. What is the actual value to each institution? That's a tough question. What they found is a value that works for both.
Neutrality has nothing to do with joining the EU or not. There was a vote 25 years ago and the Swiss people decided against it with a 76.7% majority. That’s all.
Personally I am against it myself because the EU parliamentary system and the Swiss system of direct democracy are just not compatible.
Shouldn't there be another vote by now though? Or are birth rates there extremely abysmal? Otherwise seems like a very large portion of the younger population isn't getting a say there for a democracy.
Votes have to be initiated and apparently no one wants to. Anybody could start collecting signatures and bring it to a vote, but I‘m pretty sure it would get rejected again anyway (pure speculation though)
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NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 33 pts · 181d
Sounds like a bargain, someone should put that number on the side of a bus to show the people how cheap it is.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 181d
It's absolutely a bargain, they are joining a system the member states pay for, so it's fair that they have to pay something.
And for Switzerland this is peanuts for having access to the single market.
I'm not complaining, I think it's absolutely great that Switzerland and EU are working together. Just like er do with Norway, and UK/EU relations are also improving fast currently. Thumb up all around.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 181d
It's so interesting that Trump, the best negociator in the world, was not the one that struck this deal /s
PatrickYaa@feddit.org · 21 pts · 181d
They should join the eu roaming space.
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 181d
Or just straight up join EU.
genau@europe.pub · 4 pts · 181d
I don't think they are compatible with European values. Too different.
TheFool@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 181d
Absolutely not. It would completely undermine our direct democracy
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 6 pts · 181d
The way the EU works it would the other way around. Swiss populists would prevent anything from getting done unless it's more instutionalised xenophobia.
Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 181d
Loads crossbow
Shayeta@feddit.org · 3 pts · 181d
glances at origin certificates of Swiss gold
Saryn@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 181d
Says here something about teeth and watches.
I don't get it - where'd they get the teeth and watches from?
20cello@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 181d
They can pay more
FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 181d
comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 6 pts · 181d
We’re basically one huge subscription based economy here, you basically already have to pay to get out of bed in the morning.
Yondoza@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 181d
Yup! They can pay less too. They could pay nothing! Or they could not have this agreement at all. Lots of possibilities.
Seems pretty beneficial to everyone. EU gets more money to accomplish EU objectives at almost no cost. Swissy benefits from market access with less barriers. What is the actual value to each institution? That's a tough question. What they found is a value that works for both.
Saryn@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 181d
Why not just join at this point? Apes together strong!
zipfile1782@piefed.social · 6 pts · 181d
They could stop being "neutral" and join EU.
PS, they sanctioned Russia and Ukraine to be neutral
TheFool@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 181d
Neutrality has nothing to do with joining the EU or not. There was a vote 25 years ago and the Swiss people decided against it with a 76.7% majority. That’s all.
Personally I am against it myself because the EU parliamentary system and the Swiss system of direct democracy are just not compatible.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Shouldn't there be another vote by now though? Or are birth rates there extremely abysmal? Otherwise seems like a very large portion of the younger population isn't getting a say there for a democracy.
TheFool@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 181d
Votes have to be initiated and apparently no one wants to. Anybody could start collecting signatures and bring it to a vote, but I‘m pretty sure it would get rejected again anyway (pure speculation though)
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 181d
There is probably zero chance Switzerland will join EU anytime soon. But cooperation between us is still good.
Damage@feddit.it · 5 pts · 181d
They probably make more than that with tolls paid by vehicles going and coming from Italy
SprateHeader@piefed.social · -5 pts · 181d
SprateHeader@piefed.social · -5 pts · 181d