Scientists Have Just Successfully Grown Chickpeas In Simulated Moon Dirt For The First Time Using Arbuscular Mycorrhizal Fungi To Absorb Nutrients And Water.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/scientists-grow-chickpeas-in-lunar-soil/
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/scientists-grow-chickpeas-in-lunar-soil/
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Gexilla@lemmy.zip · 101 pts · 183d
Mmm, moon hummus š
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 183d
You need humus to grow hummus ;)
ameancow@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 183d
Denalduh@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 182d
I heard it's out of this world!
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 182d
imagine it was way better then earth chickpeas
and it made the hummus better
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 182d
Tastes like mochi.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 181d
Haha, Good one.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 41 pts · 182d
melfie@lemy.lol · 10 pts · 182d
AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 183d
Mixing vermicompost into the regolith seems a bit like cheating.
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 40 pts · 183d
Vermicompost is something you can readily make on the moon, meaning with this it proves you can take a resource available on the moon and grow in it.
Big deal IMO.
Well. āProvesā since itās simulated regolith, not real regolith, and it was done on earth.
scarabic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 181d
I started out wondering if this simulation would work again in lunar gravity, and now we also need vermiculture to work in lunar gravity.
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 2 pts · 181d
Weāre already working on worms in space!
https://www.esa.int/kids/en/news/Worms_in_space
Granted these arenāt the works weād make vermicompost from ⦠but still steps in that direction
scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Cool. Sadly it doesnāt seem like it was even a goal for those worms to survive.
cadekat@pawb.social · 18 pts · 183d
The article seems to imply the compost was added to both the plants with/without the fungi?
Definitely cheating in the "can we grow plants?" department, but still useful information.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 183d
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 182d
Compost is biomaterial so it manly consists of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and oxygen. The only part of that you can find on the moon is oxygen, so you can't expand beyond the amount of air and biomass (manly food) you ship from earth.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 182d
You can also find hydrogen in the water at the poles. Nitrogen, yep, that's a big one.
cenzorrll@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 182d
Yes, but this means you don't have to take dirt with you as well. Dirt is heavy.
MetalSlugX@piefed.social · 1 pts · 182d
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 183d
What would you propose, then?
We use organic amendments all the time when reclaiming historically mined lands that did not salvage soils.
Soils take millennia to form, and you're not going to get fertile soils without either kickstarting the process or waiting.
Another commentator points out that using arbuscular mychorrizhal fungi is also cheating. Again, how?
To have a functional soil and not regolith you need the following:
Organic matter is your pool of nutrients and microbes and fungi are what mineralize this pool into plant available forms, so saying they are cheating doesnt hold water (like a shitty regolith).
But I can grow plants in glass beads! Sure you can, but you're supplying chemical fertilizer to do it and constantly replacing that - so in this case you're the organic matter pool and the transformation vector.
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melfie@lemy.lol · 5 pts · 183d
melfie@lemy.lol · 22 pts · 183d
ameancow@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 183d
melfie@lemy.lol · 9 pts · 183d
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 182d
Perchlorates are water-soluble, and there is lots of ice on Mars. But people won't live there sustainably, so there is no point to it.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 182d
Actually, you only need ground bedrock, some organic matter and some bugs & and worms and a few years (like, 2 to 6). And Mykorrhiza and water of course, for most plants.
But the Moon is special in that it doesn't have erosion, the "dust" is in the form of microscopic shards, sticky and abrasive.
While dry desert planets like Mars ā with erosion ā have mostly the Australian kind of fine dust, which also sticks to everything, but is not abrasive.
Btw, there's also Orsol farming; growing them on a sponge, with nothing but some fertilizer juice. Though they are usually more bland, since they lack some micronutrients (due to the lack of Mykorrhiza, among others).
xav@programming.dev · 3 pts · 182d
Funny I didn't know that word "Orsol". Guess it's another word coming directly from the French : "Hors-sol" (literally "out-of-the-ground" or "off-ground") which is used for growing plants in an artificial substrate.
tryplot@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 181d
we'd be the compost planet. we'd live on their food scraps, and they'd harvest the results
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 182d
Sure, but the alternative is to stop destroying our own soils and respect our ecosystem, and humanity has proven it will take on any challenge except cleaning up after ourselves
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 182d
Look at a Saturn V. Look at a bag of chickpeas. If you think somehow launching a Saturn V (at a minimum) to get back a bag of chickpeas is somehow better for our ecosystem, I think I see why humanity is doomed.
Space Nuttery is not the solution to anything.
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 182d
Thatās exactly what I mean - we come up with all sorts of madness to grow food and obtain resources from further away. And society completely glosses over how impractical and wasteful it all is.
Meanwhile, what we could use is treat our planet properly and succeed with the amazing gifts it already provides. We are the only species that seems hell bent on sh*tting where we eat, and we come up with these inefficient strategies all to avoid cleaning up after ourselves
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 182d
Oh, you're right, I didn't register your meaning, I get so upset whenever I see Space Nuttery I lose all civility.
Jolteon@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 181d
I was thinking this was future planning for the other direction. While actually having a permanent colony of civilians on the moon is unrealistic, having a layover/fueling station on the moon that will have a small population of researchers, engineers, etc. is actually pretty feasible, and any mass sent up there will still be expensive. Shipping seeds is significantly cheaper than shipping food, and dirt is heavy, so you want to ship as little of it as possible. If it's possible to grow stuff in lunar soil, that drastically decreases the amount of mass that needs to be sent.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 182d
It's coarse and rough and irritating and gets everywhere.
scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Iāve also learned about it being sharp. What I havenāt heard answered is this. Itās sharp because thereās no weather to wear it down. If there were, how easily would it wear down? Does it crumble the second anything touches it? Being sharp and staying sharp are two different things. How much of a threat is this stuff, actually?
ageedizzle@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 183d
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 183d
Low and zero gravity can affect how roots spread/dig and later can cause issues with how water and nutrients circulate through the stalk since they evolved to circulate with Earth level gravity. Space station experiments have proven itās not impossible, the plants can adapt, theyāre just a bit different. Trees would probably struggle, most crops would be fine. Whatās really difficult is pollination. Youād probably have to hand pollinate, set up a wind system in your greenhouse, or get self-pollinaters. Bees would struggle to adapt because low gravity would mess with their flight, their dance communication, and probably their honeycomb structure and larval development.
Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 183d
I imagine they would grow taller, possibly faster
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 13 pts · 183d
That makes me think that we shouldn't bring potatoes there. They'll become too strong, unstoppable.
MohamedMoney@feddit.org · 25 pts · 183d
kinkles@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 183d
We will send Irish astronauts to tame the tuber threat
grue@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 183d
This made me ask "has there ever been such a thing?"
The answer is apparently "not yet," but Dr. Norah Patten will potentially be the first, sometime within a year or so.
Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d
For sure don't bring kudzu.
grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d
Kudzu isn't as virulent as people think. It looks like it eats entire forests when seen from the highway, but it's actually only covering the trees on the edge.
scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Thatās what you donāt get from this simulation.
My uneducated guess is that 1/6th gravity would still be a great deal more like earth than 0 gravity.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 9 pts · 183d
What capitalization rules are being applied in this headline? Seems like it's out of The Art of the Style by Trump & White.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 183d
Holy fuck you stacked the diss
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 7 pts · 183d
The post title has been edited to strip me of all joy.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 183d
That's okay, the masterful takedown persists.
limer@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 182d
Hydroponics can grow plants too
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 182d
Now all they need are some daal and rice
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 182d
i cant wait to eat Lunar Falafel.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d
Did they poop in it?
ameancow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 183d
IronBird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 182d
this looks familiar, whats it from...craig ferguson?
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 182d
Triumph the Insult-Comic Dog, a bit from Conan.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 183d
FINALLY, I mean come on it is embarassing it took them this long, we were all waiting don't tell me you weren't.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 1 pts · 182d
Now grow beans!
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 181d
Moon curry when?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 183d
FFS... You can't grow anything without an atmosphere.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 183d
BrickEater@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 183d
No but it does mean we don't need to ship up potting soil if a base were to be established.
PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 182d
Oh god, even in space thereās no escape from those bland awful little balls of mundanity. Surely it would be cheaper and less resource intensive for the astronauts to just roll up little balls of cardboard and eat them. The effect would be the same
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 27 pts · 182d
No idea what you're on about, chickpeas are GOAT. Tasty, full of good stuff for you, brings lots of vegetal protein, and, like, hummus??
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 182d
Don't forget our GOAT falafel!
PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 182d
Hummus is acceptable, if itās got so much garlic in it that it burns
wabafee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 182d
I bet this will be the cheapest protein available in space in the future.
melfie@lemy.lol · 3 pts · 182d