TIL people of South Asian descent are more likely to suffer from heart disease. Even if they have a healthy weight and don't smoke. Scientists are not sure why.
https://magazine.ucsf.edu/heart-risks-medicine-kept-missing
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mmmm@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 187d
I heard environmental factors also are a factor for heart diseases - namely, air pollution.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 32 pts · 187d
Note the word globally.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 187d
People of South Asian descent don't all live in the same place with the same climate. So that's not the reason.
XTL@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 186d
Statistically significant portion might be in just a handful of similar cities. There are big cities in sa.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 186d
My point is, the diaspora is spread enough that you can rule out climate and air quality by comparing cohorts within the same climate and same air quality. Most cities in Europe don't have terrible air quality for example. Your suggestion that big Asian cities have more relevance in the result goes against how you actually do statistics.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 186d
I do love that the acronym is MASALA.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 186d
Genetic quirk is the only thing I can think of. But which gene marker specifically is glitching out here? I barely know anything about genetics, but I do remember that some genetic anomalies tied to heart formation in early fetal development also lead to throat and stomach problems too. Do those correspond, or is this isolated?
58008@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 187d
it is bcoz they r locate in s. asian
i hope this help
- professor 58008
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 184d
Shut up, Prof.Dimwit.
Nomad@infosec.pub · -7 pts · 187d
The answer is usually ultra processed foods.
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 186d
South East Asian diets don’t have a lot of processed foods. In fact they’re recommended by doctors to fight heart disease and weight issues.
Nomad@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 186d
Pretty sure that's traditional Asian cuisine, not the industrial garbage that has taken hold over there too.
Maybe its the stress of Asian parents pressuring their kids to perform instead of the food...?
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 185d
Haha yeah maybe.
xep@discuss.online · 2 pts · 186d
South Asia isn't Southeast Asia.
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 185d
Take out East and it’s much the same
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 184d
No
msokiovt@lemmy.today · -27 pts · 187d
That's easy on the food side of things: Seed oils and GMOs are the biggest cause of this sort of thing. I'd imagine South Asians consume food with those.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 187d
When you do real schience, instead of throwing opinions on the Internet, you actually account for these things.
xep@discuss.online · -2 pts · 186d
https://www.masalastudy.org/publications
Doesn't look like they've done anything about seed oils or GMO, but there are a lot of papers there and I read one then only scanned through the titles, so they well may have. They appear to be all cohort (aka epidemiological) studies so it's very hard to control for factors like seed oils, which are in almost all food-like products now. Same with other ultraprocessed foods, and things like Glyphosate or Atrazine exposure.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 187d
And you've got evidence to back up this claim? Not only that those things do what you sya they do, but that these people consume more of them than others?
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 187d
Oh holy shit this random dude on the internet figured it out. All those scientists who did all that research never thought to account for diet I'm sure. Who would have thunk?
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 186d
Coconut oil. "Seed oils and GMOs are bad" is just a stupid conspiracy theory.
msokiovt@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 186d
If you can't cold press oil out of something, it's a seed oil if you hot press it, in a sense.
Coconut oil isn't a seed oil, as it's cold pressed. Oils like soybean oil, peanut oil, sunflower oil, etc. are nothing more than hot, chemical-extracted oils that cause a lot of health issues.
However, cold pressing what could be a seed oil is a lecithin (sunflower lecithin, soy lecithin, those that can be hot, chemical-extracted oils).
aninnymoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 185d
Source? You've just made a bunch of claim with nothing to back that up. No I won't Google since you made the claim, so burden of proof is on you.
percent@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 185d
This seems like valuable information. You should tell the scientists!
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 186d
Pretty sure scientists are baffled for a reason. This isn’t it because this certainly would have been factored.
Their diets are recommended for good nutrition.