Can anyone recommend some IDEs that don't use AI, not owned by awful corporations, and preferably no online features at all? Of course I am aware of vim, neovim, etc. but ideally I'm looking for a gentler entry from other popular IDEs.
Can anyone recommend some IDEs that don't use AI, not owned by awful corporations, and preferably no online features at all? Of course I am aware of vim, neovim, etc. but ideally I'm looking for a gentler entry from other popular IDEs.
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solrize@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 177d
Emacs Makes All Computing Simple.
scoutfdt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 176d
OP said gentler, not please destroy my pinky (jokes aside emacs is great but there's a lot to configure)
thatonecoder@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 176d
You obviously mean Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping, no?
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 176d
That was a much better insult back in the day. Now that feels like a compliment (swapping aside I suppose).
paequ2@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 176d
OP said IDE, not operating system...
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 12 pts · 177d
Maybe Gram (a Zed fork). And VSCodium as a popular choice but ultimately that's Microsoft. But there's a bazillion code editors in any Linux repository, some more general, some very good at a specific programming language.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 177d
Perhaps the KDE one, KDevelop, or maybe Eclipse. In the terminal I'd recommend Helix. It's sort of like vim but with more intuitive controls (personal opinion, don't kill me), and the functionality is built in to the core program rather than relying on many plugins. You only have to add an LSP server for code completion/popover documentation, just like VSCode
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 177d
Yes, Eclipse. 20-year-ago me would have a stroke saying that (due to it being pretty 'heavyweight' for the PCs back then) but it's got support for any language you can think of with plugins and an app store for everything. But, no AI crap unless you seek it out, I presume.
django@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 176d
I remember running Eclipse with 1GB of RAM ðŸ˜
Creat@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 176d
It's been a few years (not many, just a few) but last I used eclipse it was clunky, slow and cumbersome for everything you wanted to do. Even relatively simple tasks ended up being tedious. Finding any option or feature usually required Google.
It also loved crashing, a lot.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 176d
Eclipse definitely earned its hate for a long time, but it's heaviness waned more and more as systems got faster and had more ram. By the time I stopped using it, it was practically snappy and that was over ten years ago. That being said, I'm not exactly excited to jump back into it.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 176d
Have you heard of the lazyvim config for neovim?
tiny_hedgehog@piefed.social · 3 pts · 176d
OK, yeah, this makes it a bit easier to tackle the learning curve of vim. Thanks, I'll give this a go.
enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 177d
Kate
Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 177d
clif@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 176d
Helix was mentioned in a few posts but no link so here : https://helix-editor.com/
If you love the terminal, it's fantastic. I like it better than NeoVIM but, admittedly, I didn't spend a lot of time trying to get to know nvim. It's much better than VIM for code because it was built for that, not "just" a text editor that got forced into IDE service. (Not to denigrate VI/VIM, I love them, but Helix is more powerful for dev related tasks). If you hate the terminal... keep moving, nothing to see here.
For a more common IDE (not terminal), I've been using Theia for the past 6 months or so : https://theia-ide.org/ If you click that link you'll see "AI" vomited into everything, for example the first two sentences :
From what I've seen, there's no AI integration in the base and it's only added via extensions. It is extremely similar to VS Code but is not a fork. Now... whether or not it was ""developed with AI"", I don't know. I kind of got the feeling that they sprayed "AI" all over the website to try to cash in on the hype and get new users.
Even if that's the case (chasing the hype train, no actual LLM inside), that's likely to be a major turn off for you which I fully understand.
ComradeMiao@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 176d
gedit
nightlily@leminal.space · 2 pts · 176d
People are recommending vim but unfortunately the lead maintainers are now slopcoders. Evi is a fork from before the brainrot set in https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi
paequ2@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 176d
Someone is working on a list: https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware#editors
Maybe? https://lap.dev/lapce/
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 176d
I'm still going to recommend Vim.
Have you tried typing
vimtutorto your terminal emulator and press enter?I also did a quick search and found this interactive tutorial website of Vim.
https://openvim.com/
JetpackJackson@feddit.org · 1 pts · 177d
Kakoune, Helix, Kate
lemmyrob@feddit.org · 1 pts · 176d
Geany?
flamingos@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 176d
There's Pulsar, a fork of the discontinued Atom.