Katie Couric confronts Gavin Newsom on his shifting views on transgender youth
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46 Comments
JayTreeman@fedia.io · 72 pts · 174d
I wish they'd wake up and stop pushing this guy. They need to be pushing a Bernie style left of center. Otherwise it's going to swing so far left there's going to be carpenters working to build mideval structures outside their homes.
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 174d
We have a right wing party and an ultra far right wing party, neither of them will ever allow a left wing progressive into power.
kittykillinit@lemy.lol · 7 pts · 174d
We got close to having Bernie twice.
If just a few scumbags had less influence, he would've won.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 174d
You realize if Bernie had won he'd have been impeached before he took office, right? Maybe day 1 if they were feeling generous. He probably should've sold his soundbites better but isn't that always the folly of the Dems?
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 174d
Impeached? no.
Taken on a Dallas car ride? Probably within a month.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 174d
I could see that. The government is set up so that no one person has the ability to do anything too radical unless everyone goes along with them.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 174d
Impeached maybe, but I doubt he'd have been convicted and removed.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 174d
Yeah, this unfortunately. Truth nuke
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 174d
Pushing this guy is how they stay in power. They don't give a fuck if they win or lose. Democratic consultants had their best year in 2024 pushing two right wing slop candidates.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 174d
Actual Bernie would have been dope.
Trump: Rants for an hour over fucking windmills and how he can't flush his KFC shits.
Bernie: Walks to the podium, shouts out some reasonable policy, then shuffles off.
MartianRecon@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 174d
One of those people need to actually run.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 62 pts · 174d
For everyone arguing it’s a niche issue, there’s plenty of non-LGBTQIA people who also care about trans rights. And the fascists are going to keep flogging the issue so the only way to deal with it is to address it head on. The fact that this is a question about Newsom makes this a problem.
TMNT_In_My_Septic_Tank@lemmy.org · 3 pts · 174d
hedge_lord@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 174d
How much
sawdusttransphobia can you put inrice crispiesa politician before peoplenoticecare enough to complain?Also did he just do the "I have a black friend" thing with his godson? Because it kind of seems like he just did almost exactly that.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 19 pts · 174d
The idea of Gavin Newsom running as a spoiler legitimately terrifies me.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 23 pts · 174d
He is the chosen representative of the part of the party that would rather have Trump than someone like Bernie.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 10 pts · 174d
If I did not vote for him it would not be because of this statement. Heck im one who thinks maybe we just need to stop having sports seperated by sex and just have the league levels and you participate in the highes league you can get into.
null@lemmy.org · 10 pts · 174d
I want to not dislike they guy and I'll still vote for him over whatever fascist the Republicans nominte, but damn. It would be great if he actually was the person his social media team makes him out to be.
He'll get the nomination either way because he's the corporate pick.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 174d
Feel free to dislike him, as I do, but I'll vote for him if he's the nominee as well, because "not fascist" is how low the fucking bar is now.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 174d
Akh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 174d
Wrong .1% issue to care about. Literally there are pedos running the whitehouse committing so many crimes
DomeGuy@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 174d
Newsom isn't a democratic nominee running against Trump. He's a Democrat who wants to be chosen over other Democrats to be the 2028 nominee.
Calling out any apparent backsliding or bigotry is relevant, be it transphobia, homophobia, Islamophobia, anti-semitism, sexism, or racism.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 174d
It’s not backsliding if he’s always been a bigot.
And frankly, the way he deals with homelessness is bad enough for me to vociferously oppose him.
We need solutions that fix people’s problems, not feeds the prison slave labor industry.
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 174d
If he can't be trusted to help .1% amount of the population, how can he be trusted to help .6%, or 26%?
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Trans rights are a niche issue, in that only a very small percentage of people are trans themselves. But that's what makes trans rights a vital litmus test for politicians.
Will they uphold the human rights of a group of people whose votes they don't need in order to win?
kittykillinit@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 174d
It's difficult to gauge leftist support for LGBT when everyone who opposes it is silenced.
gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 174d
I don’t care about the culture war puppet show. I’ll vote for whoever can get the nazi pedos out of office.
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 174d
OK, well that ain't Newsom. He may win the primary if we're unlucky but there's no way he's winning the general without turning out the whole Democratic party, and this transphobic nonsense he chose to engage in has made sure that won't happen.
Fortunately, there's still plenty of time to rally around a different nominee
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 174d
Except his backsliding on liberal issues should be a sign he's another Manchin, Sinema, or Fetterman and he'll royally fuck us over when it hurts the most.
compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 174d
Throwing trans people under the bus isn’t going to get the Republicans out of office. The Democrats in NC who caved on trans rights just got walloped in the primaries. Even if you don’t care about trans rights (and I think we should all care), trying to chase the mythical moderate like this is not an effective strategy to getting elected.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 8 pts · 174d
That isn't going to be done by a person that isn't willing to come out against the Republicans favorite wedge issues.
ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 174d
So the blue fascist pedos get elected?
kittykillinit@lemy.lol · -1 pts · 174d
Same, but it's telling how the neo-liberal candidate is ignoring both the culture war and the class war.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 174d
Here's something important for everyone: It's actually a GOOD thing to be able to change your views when confronted with new evidence. Many of the Nordic countries, Canada and the rest of Europe are putting the brakes on certain gender affirming care up to a certain age and I'm going to guess it's not just childish discrimination as to the reason they're doing it.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 174d
Yes, it is, but how is that relevant here? What "new evidence" appeared that caused Newsom's increasing anti-trans rhetoric?
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
Good point.
The only new evidence for Newsom is the 2028 election. I'll be glad to see him go.
GeneralVincent@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 174d
What do you think is the reason several countries are putting the brakes on certain gender affirming care under a certain age?
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 174d
I've read a few things but the primary concern is irreversible treatments.
I'm not the expert and think it should be up to doctors and their patients based on whatever consensus the medical community reaches.
GeneralVincent@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
I agree with with it being between doctors and patients based on the medical consensus.
Tho that's kinda the opposite of your original comment, which seemed to suggest it should be determined by politicians. Or at least implied that politicians are basing their laws on the medical consensus, which isn't always true especially with topics like trans rights that have been overly politicized and then demonized as a moral failing.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · -11 pts · 174d
From what I see he doesnt appear to be running from the issue. Hes passed a ton of pro trans legislation and it seems he will continue. But the reality is its an 80/20 issue and there is little point in rhetorically fighting on it when you can fight on something better like cost of living or Republican corruption.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 174d
Fizz@lemmy.nz · -2 pts · 174d
Yeah look how that worked out for Gaza.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 174d
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 174d
I really don't know how many Americans were voting for or against Israel in the last election. I'm guessing it wasn't enough to tip the scales either way.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 174d
Fizz@lemmy.nz · -1 pts · 174d
Thats 1 single analysis and not definitive or well supported.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · -3 pts · 174d
Do you support a 1 state solution?
null@lemmy.org · -4 pts · 174d
If Gaza actually did cost her the election then fuck Gaza. I have no sympathy for voters that don't show up to the polls over a single issue they aren't 100% appeased on when the other party is even worse on it.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 174d
null@lemmy.org · 0 pts · 174d
Non-voters got what they didnt vote for.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 174d
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 174d
It's not an 80/20 issue, it's a human rights issue. Just because he's done some good doesn't discount his bigoted rhetoric. Fun fact, multiple issues can be addressed at once.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · -1 pts · 174d
Something can be a human rights issue and an 80/20 issue. He does not have bigoted rhetoric. If you think that then youve been lied to. His rhetoric hasnt shifted from ally to bigoted Its shifted to less focus on putting these issues at the forefront of the campaign because they are not popular issues compared to what he could be talking about.