Democrats block bill to reopen Homeland Security amid 27-day shutdown

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5781155-democrats-blocks-homeland-security-funding-bill/

Senate Democrats on Thursday defeated a motion to proceed to a House-passed bill to reopen the Department of Homeland Security and end the 27-day shutdown that has hampered the functions of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and other critical agencies.

excellent

The motion failed by a vote of 51 to 46. Centrist Sen. John Fetterman (Pa.) was the only Democrat to vote with Republicans to advance the funding bill. It needed 60 votes to advance.

centrist my fucking asshole.

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cmbabul@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 185d (9 replies)

Its not nearly enough to make up for the limp dick 'resistance' they've put up so far, but I'll take a small W

uberdroog@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 185d

Small wins. But I am sure they will fuck it up somehow.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 185d

It's not small.

The parts of DHS that arent ICE don't get funded, and that effects people personally, especially TSA which means it hits wealthier people the most.

ICE is funded from the 70 billion they got from BBB.

But moving money around the same agency is easy. If they wanted Republicans could do set funds but they won't.

We don't need to find one single straw to break trumps thrall over voters by midterms. We need to just keep fucking tossing straw, not just till the camel drops, till the buzzer sounds, even if we can't see any camels left

It'll be election day before we know it.

danc4498@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 185d (6 replies)

Nothing will ever be enough for some people. People expect the party with zero power to pull votes out their asses.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 185d (1 reply)

It's worth remembering, much as I hate it:

  1. Oligarchs corrupt dems - not as much as repubs, but enough
  2. So many elects dems are centrist / center-right. Fucking overton window

We need more progressive representation and support in this country, but it's dying because of the decades of fascist propaganda. 😡

cmbabul@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 185d

That dude would be saying “he can’t do this” while being marched to the gallows

cmbabul@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 185d (2 replies)

I don't care about votes, they need to be doing everything possible whether its legal or in line with decorum or not. If they would start playing dirty to fuck the fascists over we'd be in much better shape.

danc4498@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 185d (1 reply)

It would give the fascists an excuse to remove them from power. You want a violent revolution, it’s not going to come from legally elected officials.

cmbabul@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 185d

No one said violent, Mitch McConnell blocked everything good for decades without having the votes to pass anything. Obstruct with everything possible, this isn’t a long game and the fascists will happily kill the DNC. This fight is existential and they act like it’s biz as usual. The old world is no more

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 185d

They didn't have to vote to give ICE any money, either now or under Biden or under Trump I or under Obama.

SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 35 pts · 185d (1 reply)

I wrote to my Democratic Senator to ask that DHS stay shut down until the ICE murders are arraigned, at minimum. I suggest that everybody contact theirs. Keep the pressure on.

partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 185d

I wrote to my Democratic Senator to ask that DHS stay shut down until the ICE murders are arraigned, at minimum. I suggest that everybody contact theirs.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 185d (7 replies)

Democrats voted against the Homeland Security appropriations bill because it includes funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP), two agencies they say need reforms after immigration agents shot and killed two U.S. citizens in Minneapolis.

“We all know that we do not have agreement on how to deal with ICE. We know very simply that Democrats just want ICE to behave like any police department in America and use warrants and not wear masks,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) said before the vote.

Republicans trying to spin, but Democrats are standing up against ICE murdering citizens.

So this is a fucking thing to note, all you "Dems do nothing" people.

HERE. ARE. DEMS. DOING. SOMETHING.

At least for now. :P

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 185d (6 replies)
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Electric_Druid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 185d (1 reply)

Not the guy doomposting on the optimism thread

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 185d

Sorry, didn't see the com.

Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 185d (3 replies)

And when they don't?

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 185d (2 replies)

Cmon, this is the dems we're talking about. It would be the first time in my life they didn't sell us out for imaginary "moderate republicans" (really just their donors).

Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 184d (1 reply)

As long as you'll acknowledge it if it happens. We can. Wait a month, unless you want to move the goalpost now?

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 184d

If the democratic party turned into a useful vehicle for enacting positive social change, then it would be a useful vehicle for enacting positive social change.

That doesn't mean I won't continue to organize outside the party and criticize any failure, since its still a fundamentally pro-capital party and will revert back to its nature when the threat diminishes.

Doomsider@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 184d (1 reply)

It is time to disband ICE and TSA. The Coast Guard should be moved back to the military.

Honestly, the entirety of DHS can go away and we can move any useful agencies to more appropriate locations. Just the name alone is so cringe it is crazy.

oatscoop@midwest.social · 4 pts · 183d

Roll the useful bits (i.e. everything related to disaster response and preparation) back into FEMA.

TachyonTele@piefed.social · 8 pts · 185d

I love how we started a war while "homeland security" has been shut down

BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 185d (5 replies)

What? This is INSANE! To keep an Agency EVERYONE Hates CLOSED during an ELECTION YEAR?

-Democrat Leadership!

Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 185d (4 replies)

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BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 183d

Big Mac is a deranged poster but it's kind of endearing. I just tagged him and know what to expect.

Everything they post is sarcastic, but somehow perfectly written like the weird old people ranting on Facebook.

IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · -10 pts · 185d (2 replies)
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ramble81@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 185d

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Edit: The introverted turtle pulled his head back in his shell after randomly lashing out at the above poster.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 185d

?^[LOOK, fuck off, sorry, I couldn't resist because after a rant like that, someone has GOT to do it, okay? <3]