U.S. President Donald Trump said Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin may be providing limited support to Iran, while also dismissed the idea that the U.S. would rely on Ukraine’s experience in countering Iranian Shahed drones. "No, we don’t need their help on drone defense," Trump said. Zelenskyy previously said the U.S. had sought Ukraine’s expertise in responding to Iranian-made drones used by Russia in the war.
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fox2263@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 164d
Russia is helping Iran which means the best course of action is reducing sanctions in Russia.
Seems totally legit
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · -14 pts · 164d
It's not meant to help Russia, but the European countries that were depending on gas from Middle East. So when the exports from there stopped, the exports from Russia had to start again so people could cook their meals and heat their homes.
VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 164d
Has EU dropped their sanctions on russia? No. The US helping out russia doesn't affect EU much if at all. Probably goes to India or some such place.
hark@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 161d
It goes to India who then sells it to the EU.
harmbugler@piefed.social · 47 pts · 164d
If Trump was there to destroy the US, what would he do differently?
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · -9 pts · 164d
There's anywhere from 800-1000 US military bases around the world. You might say "destroy the US", others would say he's freeing the rest of the world.
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 164d
His destruction of the US isn't literal in that the US will cease to exist. If it gets real bad, like civil war bad, there will still be a military, and there will be lots of radicalization. Think about how the middle east was destabilized by the US in the 80s, 90s, and onward, and then think if that was good for the world. Now imagine if that happened to the US instead. The "world police" won't stop being bastards, it will likely just get more heinous, like bombing little girl schools, which is an escalation from the previous atrocities committed.
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · -1 pts · 164d
So your argument is because America wasn't destroyed, the middle east was destabliized for 2 dacades(though I'd say it's closer to 6 decades) so America shouldn't be destroyed because it will become how it is now?
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 164d
Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying America won't be destroyed, it will morph to something else, something that will likely be more radical than it is now. I don't think anyone should want that, but that is what Trump is doing. He's not destroying the bad stuff, he's actively bolstering that and killing the good stuff. I'm not defending America at all, just pointing out that it can and will get worse on this current path.
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · 2 pts · 164d
Yeah, I see your point. It's definitely my accelerationist side speaking, and I did think that right after 9/11 that Americans would see what they're doing around the world. I was way off on that one, and America went further into destroying the world. But we do seem to be turning, at least public wise. Politicians, not so much. But there's definitely way less support for for the Iran war than there was for Iraq/Afghanistan. That's also where part of my belief comes from. I don't think the Iranian people can do anything to improve their situation. Their only option is for the American empire to crumble, and I might have some good news for the, cause we are destroying ourselves from the inside, and much of it because we are overexpanding ourselves militarily too much.
definitely_AI@feddit.online · 44 pts · 164d
So let me get this straight- you are aiding Putin, Putin is aiding Iran, and you are attacking Iran.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 164d
And the rise in oil prices and removal of sanctions is pulling the russian economy out of the gutter while simultaniously drawing away air defence that would have otherwise been given to Ukraine (either directly or through European purchases)
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 164d
That is Don-roe Doctrine, baby.
4D chess or some shit. I wonder if Donald even knows how to play actual chess, come to think of it.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 164d
And snubbing the country whittling away at Russia and whose anti-drone tech was developed around Iranian drones.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 164d
The war is between the ultra rich vs. the not so rich. This conflict extends beyond borders.
Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 164d
War's gotta war.
meerstyler@feddit.org · 1 pts · 163d
That should be a meme.
yakko@feddit.uk · 42 pts · 164d
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I just heard a story yesterday about how Ukrainian drone warfare experts are already in Iran teaching the US how to deal with shaheds. I wonder who's lying, RFU or the guy who lies more often than he blinks?
rayyy@piefed.social · 7 pts · 164d
Plot twist: The orange felon/pedophile switches sides. Oh wait, he is already on Putin's side.