Wait until you find out what happens to totalled EVs (they get sold for barely anything and shipped to eastern europe to be repaired). The ultimate Reduce Reuse Recycle scheme
It depends on the plug-in hybrid. Mine has a big enough battery that it runs as an EV until you run out of battery (usually after 40 miles). Works great for day to day city driving where I regularly get 1000 miles before having to refuel. And if you are doing long road drives, acts as a standard gas powered vehicle.
They're more fuel efficient, the electric motors reduce wear and tear on the ICE and mean you can have a smaller ICE. They're a significant step forward from pure ICE.
Eh. My Prius is almost 20 years old. I'd rather keep driving it than buy a new vehicle, even if the new vehicle took less resources to produce. I'm well past the break-even point.
As a daily driver of a 19 volt I can confidently say I only buy gas if I go out of town. My standard driving never goes above the ~40 miles of full electric range.
This is why I love bicycles. Be careful if you never ever use the fuel though, you might need to add a stabilizer or something if it goes unused for too long.
Yeah the car complains after a few months and runs the engine after a year, generally I go visit family once every other month or so and maybe use a gallon
I have an EV. Yay my fuel price isn't changing. But only for my car. Everything else is shipped using mostly gas. So that all goes up. Buy local. Thankfully the last year has increased local production of many necessary items. Continue avoiding buying anything American since Trump continues to make life more difficult for everyone in the world.
Naw, that shit will affect every crevice of the economy. I’ve already had to increase certain areas of my budget three times within the last several months because inflation has gone up an insane amount in a short time. The only saving grace is that where I live winter is almost over.
The ones I see around my complex just have like a communal charger from a local business lol, it's doable if people can come together and agree on something like that
When I lived in an apartment I used the standard 120V outlet to charge overnight, at some point I did add ~$40 to my rent to get a garage space and used that 120V outlet instead.
This is just one anecdote but when I was car shopping in 2022 in the US, my (non plugin) hybrid CRV cost $1000 more than the ICE version. Not really a lot more.
32 Comments
inari@piefed.zip · 32 pts · 149d
People who commute by bike or electric trains:
Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 149d
moroninahurry@piefed.social · 13 pts · 149d
Also homeowners looking at people.
Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 149d
And anyone with a badass tree fort
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 10 pts · 149d
I was pleasantly surprised the EV and Hybrid deduction was still available in the USA for 2025.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 149d
Wait until you find out what happens to totalled EVs (they get sold for barely anything and shipped to eastern europe to be repaired). The ultimate Reduce Reuse Recycle scheme
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth · 8 pts · 149d
Plug in hybrids are shit BTW, just go for regular hybrid or full electric.
gartheom@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 149d
It depends on the plug-in hybrid. Mine has a big enough battery that it runs as an EV until you run out of battery (usually after 40 miles). Works great for day to day city driving where I regularly get 1000 miles before having to refuel. And if you are doing long road drives, acts as a standard gas powered vehicle.
Gamechanger@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 149d
You are right, plug in hybrids are shit but normal hybrids are shittier. No car >>>>>> EV>plug in> ICE (this includes hybrids)
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 149d
Again, anything is better than ICE
Gamechanger@slrpnk.net · -4 pts · 149d
Plugless hybrids are ICEs that need more resources to be produced. They are a marketing lie.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d
They're more fuel efficient, the electric motors reduce wear and tear on the ICE and mean you can have a smaller ICE. They're a significant step forward from pure ICE.
smh@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 149d
Eh. My Prius is almost 20 years old. I'd rather keep driving it than buy a new vehicle, even if the new vehicle took less resources to produce. I'm well past the break-even point.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 149d
Why? Isn't it nice to be able to go to the store and back with no gas?
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 149d
The manufacturers lied their asses off about how efficient they actually are from what I've read.
offspec@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d
As a daily driver of a 19 volt I can confidently say I only buy gas if I go out of town. My standard driving never goes above the ~40 miles of full electric range.
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 149d
That sounds pretty cool.
offspec@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d
Yeah literally never using gas is great
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 149d
This is why I love bicycles. Be careful if you never ever use the fuel though, you might need to add a stabilizer or something if it goes unused for too long.
offspec@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d
Yeah the car complains after a few months and runs the engine after a year, generally I go visit family once every other month or so and maybe use a gallon
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 149d
I have an EV. Yay my fuel price isn't changing. But only for my car. Everything else is shipped using mostly gas. So that all goes up. Buy local. Thankfully the last year has increased local production of many necessary items. Continue avoiding buying anything American since Trump continues to make life more difficult for everyone in the world.
modus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 149d
I only buy Ukrainian-made electronics, clothing and alcohol.
dwalin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d
Wait untill you go shopping :)
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 149d
Naw, that shit will affect every crevice of the economy. I’ve already had to increase certain areas of my budget three times within the last several months because inflation has gone up an insane amount in a short time. The only saving grace is that where I live winter is almost over.
Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 149d
Off-topic: is the dude in the picture the same actor like 'The Baron' from 'What we do in the Shadows'?
Damage@feddit.it · -2 pts · 149d
Most people who drive ICE cars can't afford fancy hybrids or EVs.
Real classy looking down on them, but I guess the image fits.
ZebulonP@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 149d
I live in an apartment building. Kinda hard to have an EV with no way to charge it. Would definitely like one though.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 149d
The ones I see around my complex just have like a communal charger from a local business lol, it's doable if people can come together and agree on something like that
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 149d
People? Come together?? In community???
Not in MY capitalism
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 149d
Oh I'm sure they're paying something for that, but it's only a handful of cars so not that hard of a task
offspec@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 149d
When I lived in an apartment I used the standard 120V outlet to charge overnight, at some point I did add ~$40 to my rent to get a garage space and used that 120V outlet instead.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 149d
Last year I sold a used ICE car and bought a used Chevy Bolt for less money. It's been great.
perishthethought@piefed.social · 4 pts · 149d
This is just one anecdote but when I was car shopping in 2022 in the US, my (non plugin) hybrid CRV cost $1000 more than the ICE version. Not really a lot more.