And there is a US law on the books, if I recall that is commonly referred to as the "Hague Invasion Act". They'll literally send troops if the ICC ever tries to take a US politician or high-ranking civil service member into custody.
They call it "American Service-Members' Protection Act" but thats definitely not what this is. What a disrespect of international law. The big powers have always taken out more right but still. I knew they didn't accept the ICC but to have such a law passed is ridiculous
That will never happen. If some criminal politician gets caught and hauled to The Hague, that means he probably deserves it, and there will NOT be the political support to go to war with our NATO allies to rescue some PedoCon War Criminal Maniac.
The reaction from the American people is likely to be the opposite - fry the dipshit.
Being impeached is NOT the same as being removed from presidency. In fact, there have been 4 total impeachments in U.S history. None have lead to removal of office.
I don't disagree with your message or tone. I just see people online say "He was impeached, and nothing happened".
No, it did. He WAS impeached. That's what being impeached looks like. A little astrict on your presidency, and a seperate vote for removal of office. He was never voted out of office. But both astricts will remain there for the rest of history.
Trump is going to be remembered for a lot more than his impeachments, like it or not. Over the next hundred years, he will be the most studied of any president. Countless Masters and PhD theses will be written about him.
The good news is that it will almost all be negative. There will be a few lame apologists, but nobody will take them seriously. The vast majority will be exposing his many crimes, uncovering and gathering evidence of his guilt. Most of his crimes will never go to court, but they will be established, proven, and recorded for all history. Trump's legacy will be strongly cemented as the worst president in history, and THAT'S what he will be remembered for.
The US is not a signatory of the Rome Statute, which established the ICC. You can submit a complaint, but since the government doesn't recognize their authority (and in fact has a standing, approved invasion plan to prevent US citizens from ever being tried in The Hague), it won't do anything.
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neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 174d
US is not member of the ICC
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca · 37 pts · 174d
And there is a US law on the books, if I recall that is commonly referred to as the "Hague Invasion Act". They'll literally send troops if the ICC ever tries to take a US politician or high-ranking civil service member into custody.
So much respect for international law /s
timestatic@feddit.org · 6 pts · 173d
They call it "American Service-Members' Protection Act" but thats definitely not what this is. What a disrespect of international law. The big powers have always taken out more right but still. I knew they didn't accept the ICC but to have such a law passed is ridiculous
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 173d
That will never happen. If some criminal politician gets caught and hauled to The Hague, that means he probably deserves it, and there will NOT be the political support to go to war with our NATO allies to rescue some PedoCon War Criminal Maniac.
The reaction from the American people is likely to be the opposite - fry the dipshit.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 173d
Like there es no popular support for the war in Iran? Like there es no popular support for ICE?
Sure bro, that would stop them.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 43 pts · 174d
Trump was convicted of 34 crimes and impeached twice.. what do you think?
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 173d
34 felonies
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 174d
Being impeached is NOT the same as being removed from presidency. In fact, there have been 4 total impeachments in U.S history. None have lead to removal of office.
I don't disagree with your message or tone. I just see people online say "He was impeached, and nothing happened".
No, it did. He WAS impeached. That's what being impeached looks like. A little astrict on your presidency, and a seperate vote for removal of office. He was never voted out of office. But both astricts will remain there for the rest of history.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 174d
*Asterisk.
^I'vebeenwaitingmyentirelifetomakethissnidecomment.^
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 174d
The fact that they aren’t part of the same process is just mind boggling stupid.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 174d
They are part of the same process. Or did you mean a single vote to remove? With the American bicameral legislature, that's not really possible.
Cloudstash@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 173d
There have been four attempts to impeach the president the first one failed.
I guess you think this * thing is some sort of detriment. IF anything it will just assure that Trump will remain in our collective consciousness.
The US has had many shit presidents who are by an large forgotten.
All this * will do is ensure he is remembered…
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 173d
Trump is going to be remembered for a lot more than his impeachments, like it or not. Over the next hundred years, he will be the most studied of any president. Countless Masters and PhD theses will be written about him.
The good news is that it will almost all be negative. There will be a few lame apologists, but nobody will take them seriously. The vast majority will be exposing his many crimes, uncovering and gathering evidence of his guilt. Most of his crimes will never go to court, but they will be established, proven, and recorded for all history. Trump's legacy will be strongly cemented as the worst president in history, and THAT'S what he will be remembered for.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
Don't never stop giving up.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 174d
You could file a complaint to the ICC, who would basically wag their finger at him.
And then trump would release a statement:
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 174d
The US is not a signatory of the Rome Statute, which established the ICC. You can submit a complaint, but since the government doesn't recognize their authority (and in fact has a standing, approved invasion plan to prevent US citizens from ever being tried in The Hague), it won't do anything.
radix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
Neither is Russia, but the ICC still issued warrants for the arrest of several leaders after they invaded Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Russian_leaders
I'd love to see the next Democratic administration just let them take him and all his cronies.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 173d
Does Russia have a Hague invasion act?
Welcome to political theatre
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 174d
Yup, cannot get more "One Law for Me, another for Thee" that this, right?
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 15 pts · 174d
They routinely tell and make the ICC pound sand. But do it anyway
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 173d
It's mind-boggling that this administration can be accused (and seemingly guilty) of war crimes and at the same time be playing War so ineptly.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
Hegseth would be an ideal target for this but imo we should call politicians to ask them to join the ICC.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 174d
Considering nothing will be done about it, yeah.