c/privacy · by KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml · 143d

GrapheneOS Foundation To Never Required ID or Other PII To Use GrapheneOS

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116261301913660830

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44781501

GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.

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harsh3466@lemmy.ml · 70 pts · 143d

Fuck yeah Graphene.

RiQuY@lemmy.zip · 47 pts · 143d

That's the bare minimum I expect from them.

Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 143d (11 replies)

Now we just need to see how different distros handle it

ISOmorph@feddit.org · 4 pts · 143d (9 replies)

Just saw a report yesterday that systemd will implement age verification, meaning it might not be up to the distros.

magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 142d

Its just storing a date you tell it is your birthday. Nothing more than an age gate that can easily be lied to.

Honestly just have your distro zero accounts out to 00:00:00-1970-01-01 by default.

adespoton@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 142d

Might not be up to the distros?

Most distros already have a non-systemd variant out there.

And systemd is also open source; if age verification is baked in, people can just modify it to always return a positive result.

xvertigox@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d (4 replies)

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ramenu@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 143d (1 reply)

Easiest solution is to just fork it rather than replacing it entirely

MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 143d

nah, patch it out if it becomes an issue (x doubt)

TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 142d (1 reply)

May go the Gentoo route. majority of my friends use that as their primary os. peer pressure + compiling your OS is fun

penguin@lemmy.pixelpassport.studio · 3 pts · 142d

I just did that yesterday, definitely a more involved setup but I really like it so far. I wanted to ditch systemd for a few reasons but this recent news finally gave me the motivation.

LordCrom@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d

Time to go back to init.d

Fmstrat@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 142d

No, they won't. They added an age field to the user profile, right next to name, etc. It's there in case systems want to use it.

KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 136d

i personally think people who maintain distros outside of these countries/regions will just ignore these requirements

DannyMac@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 142d (6 replies)

What are they going to do when these states hand over a list of violations at $7,500 per violation?

AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 142d (3 replies)

Are the devs even in a jurisdiction where that matters? Given they're working on a project specifically focused on privacy and security, even if they are in such a jurisdiction, are they actually traceable, or have they been obfuscating their identity with tools like Tor? It might not be enforceable.

ijhoo@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 142d (2 replies)

there is a company behind, so they can be identified... but, the foundation is in Canada, so probably California law doesn't apply to them. unless they start to sell their products in California. not a lawyer so I don't know for sure how those things work...

AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 142d

Ah, yeah, then they can't be touched unless Canada passes something stupid, too. Which in the general global political climate... Isn't impossible. But they may just geoblock California and other jurisdictions with similar laws so they can have plausible deniability. Of course, users could circumvent that entirely a dozen different ways, especially those technically inclined enough to install GrapheneOS, so I'm not sure how much it would really hurt them.

mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 142d