We can ignore reality while the ruling class exploit the working class for profit and access to kids, and that might make those who aren't directly in the firing line feel better about it for a while, but eventually your number will come up, and who will fight for you then?
Like everything in life, it's all about a good balance, stay in touch with reality, touch grass and hang out with friends IRL often, get involved in local activist efforts, etc. while staying informed about what's happening around the world using your phone or whatever, and use social media to build consensus for anarchism and social revolution
You're right, if we had an actual equitable society, technology would make our lives better rather than worse. Capitalism is the root of many of our problems, not technology itself, because the profit motive gives corporations all sorts of adverse incentives. If we optimized for human happiness and quality of life instead of profits we'd have a far better world.
I think at this point capitalism is so close to the source of all our problems it's probably impossible to find an issue that hasn't been made much worse by it if it isn't the direct cause to begin with.
If we optimized for human happiness and quality of life instead of profits we’d have a far better world
Let's respectfully leave the moralism in the church. We wouldn't have a "better" world, whatever good and better are, we would have a world (an abstraction, I prefer the term "set of social relations") that is in the interest of all that work, will work, and have worked to sustain reproduction of life, i.e. worked to continue to live.
I'm not moralizing, I am talking about an improvement to material conditions, in real terms. We all know what the word "better" means, why the fuck would we not advocate for improvements to our quality of life? Why would you ever want to yield discussions of that topic to organized religions?
It is exactly so that everyone does not know what "better" and "improvement" means. Someone who is of a more libertarian persuasion because they got lucky with Bitcoin might see talk about improvements and betterment that entails it being impossible to own a private recreational nuke as being inconsistent. Betterment in your case can mean that a small business owner has his property forcibly converted into communally operated MoP. Those that enforce change in their interest might see their concept of humanity warped beyond recognition in a most certainly traumatic process of historical necessity. It's kind of like saying the immune system is a good thing, for the viruses it's not and autoimmune reactions are a huge complication to the lives of organisms with immune systems.
With good and bad any further explication stops. Something is good. Okay. Why is it good? Because it is good. It nearly always plays out circularly like this, except if there is a scientific process of criticism that spawns from this line of questioning. The latter almost never occurs. All of morality, and much of ethics is circular.
I reject the notion of objective goods as that is a contradiction in adjectives and neither is it in my specific interests that everyone has food, water, healthcare, education and shelter.
Thanks for your honest response. I think your values are sociopathic and destructive, but luckily, I also think you are a rare exception among our species.
Thanks for the chat, I don't see how there's anything productive that can come from discussing this further, so I hope you have a great day and I wish you a lot of love and solidarity. All the best.
My phone is fine and still pretty cool. Just put it away now and then. Also deal with mental health issues if possible, it works wonders for all parts of life
66 Comments
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 64 pts · 174d
I love that the outcomes of capitalism are blamed on communism. Great shitposting OP, 10/10
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 174d
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -11 pts · 174d
I mean you can not look at the tiny horror screen, that's free doesn't cost a thing, highly recommended actually
scientifically proven to make your life better
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 11 pts · 174d
We can ignore reality while the ruling class exploit the working class for profit and access to kids, and that might make those who aren't directly in the firing line feel better about it for a while, but eventually your number will come up, and who will fight for you then?
Like everything in life, it's all about a good balance, stay in touch with reality, touch grass and hang out with friends IRL often, get involved in local activist efforts, etc. while staying informed about what's happening around the world using your phone or whatever, and use social media to build consensus for anarchism and social revolution
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -11 pts · 174d
🙄 alright calm down Karl
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 9 pts · 174d
It's not my fault that capitalism is making our lives worse, don't shoot the messenger!
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -8 pts · 174d
I live like a king, where do you live? America?
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 8 pts · 174d
Do you not work for a living?
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -6 pts · 174d
yeah, I love my job
Where did you live again, America?
guy@piefed.social · 43 pts · 174d
Switches to Lemmy to avoid the doom Algorithms
Immediately subscribes to boring dystopia and collapse
Am I feeling better yet?
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 174d
are ya winning son
1984@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 174d
Hehe, well, if you go looking for that stuff yourself, nobody can help you. :)
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 174d
The iPod was not touchscreen.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 22 pts · 174d
Not originally, no. But they did make an iPod Touch. It was basically an iPhone but without the phone.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 174d
The image shows a classic iPod.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 10 pts · 174d
The image also says 2007 which is when the iPhone came out. The meme clearly does not mean an iPod.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 174d
Then they should have not used an iPod.
Poteau_Poutre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
You are a very funny person
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 174d
Back atcha.
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 174d
Nerd
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 174d
No thanks, I already ate.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 174d
Best comeback ever
I mean, you're still getting a wedgie, but respectfully
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 174d
Gotta love a respectful wedgie
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 174d
1st Gen iPhone also came out in 2007.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 174d
The marketing photo used is for the iPod. Apple is and was quite good at marketing, they could have used an original iphone marketing campaign.
guy@piefed.social · 3 pts · 174d
I don't think this is an official Apple meme
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 174d
Specificity is the soul of a shitpost.
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 174d
Id say consumerism played a big role but im also scared of phones and communists so i wont stop you
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 11 pts · 174d
You're right, if we had an actual equitable society, technology would make our lives better rather than worse. Capitalism is the root of many of our problems, not technology itself, because the profit motive gives corporations all sorts of adverse incentives. If we optimized for human happiness and quality of life instead of profits we'd have a far better world.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 174d
I think at this point capitalism is so close to the source of all our problems it's probably impossible to find an issue that hasn't been made much worse by it if it isn't the direct cause to begin with.
silverneedle@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 174d
Let's respectfully leave the moralism in the church. We wouldn't have a "better" world, whatever good and better are, we would have a world (an abstraction, I prefer the term "set of social relations") that is in the interest of all that work, will work, and have worked to sustain reproduction of life, i.e. worked to continue to live.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 2 pts · 174d
I'm not moralizing, I am talking about an improvement to material conditions, in real terms. We all know what the word "better" means, why the fuck would we not advocate for improvements to our quality of life? Why would you ever want to yield discussions of that topic to organized religions?
silverneedle@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 174d
It is exactly so that everyone does not know what "better" and "improvement" means. Someone who is of a more libertarian persuasion because they got lucky with Bitcoin might see talk about improvements and betterment that entails it being impossible to own a private recreational nuke as being inconsistent. Betterment in your case can mean that a small business owner has his property forcibly converted into communally operated MoP. Those that enforce change in their interest might see their concept of humanity warped beyond recognition in a most certainly traumatic process of historical necessity. It's kind of like saying the immune system is a good thing, for the viruses it's not and autoimmune reactions are a huge complication to the lives of organisms with immune systems.
With good and bad any further explication stops. Something is good. Okay. Why is it good? Because it is good. It nearly always plays out circularly like this, except if there is a scientific process of criticism that spawns from this line of questioning. The latter almost never occurs. All of morality, and much of ethics is circular.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 0 pts · 174d
Ensuring that everyone has access to food, water, healthcare, education and shelter is objectively good. Do you disagree?
silverneedle@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 174d
I reject the notion of objective goods as that is a contradiction in adjectives and neither is it in my specific interests that everyone has food, water, healthcare, education and shelter.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 0 pts · 174d
Thanks for your honest response. I think your values are sociopathic and destructive, but luckily, I also think you are a rare exception among our species.
Thanks for the chat, I don't see how there's anything productive that can come from discussing this further, so I hope you have a great day and I wish you a lot of love and solidarity. All the best.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · -1 pts · 174d
@OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world - What do you think, buddy? Do you disagree with this too?
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 174d
I think it's objectively efficient, but not objectively "good"
axx@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 174d
How many of you are also trying to mindfully disengage from our phones, just pause for thought every time you pick it up?
Kintarian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 174d
I try to shut off my phone, then my brain starts worrying if some crazy shit is about to happen and I want time to run so here I am scrolling again.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
if crazy shit happens theyll send an alert to your phone like an amber alert type thing. so dont worry
Kintarian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Yeah, sometimes I just can’t get my brain to shut up. Might be time for a detox. Or whiskey. Or a whiskey detox.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 174d
I blame woke.
sexy_peach@feddit.org · 7 pts · 174d
My phone is fine and still pretty cool. Just put it away now and then. Also deal with mental health issues if possible, it works wonders for all parts of life
silverneedle@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 174d
What if one's mental health issues come from being poor?
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 174d
Also 2007: