hot take, preventing kids from accessing information their parents (or the government) deem inappropriate (such as queer resources, abortion resources and sex ed more generally), is child abuse
Meta is pushing this hard through various lobbyist groups and shell groups
The supposed reasoning is that because of the massive flood of bots on the internet, advertisers are now incapable of discerning between bots and humans. This is bad for the advertising industry, so advertisers are apparently bailing on Meta. This means Meta is bleeding income on that front
To stop the bleeding, Meta is pushing age verification for a few reasons: 1. It signals that the entity on the other side is indeed a human and this gives advertisers more confidence; 2. It ensures that advertisers are not advertising to children (a big no-no)
Next up comes the government buy-in. They see this as a new wedge for pushing mass surveillance and shoving tons of people out of the shadow of privacy.
Here’s a chart I grabbed from elsewhere that shows how Meta is achieving this and how the money is exchanging hands:
After they know if the user is human, the logical next step would be to nail down exactly which human. The governments would of course love that and the advertisers would start manipulating people on the individual level like never before. I wouldn't be surprised if this is also laying the foundations for some universal digital ID that would do just that.
I don't think that"s the reason for the absird lobbying, which is why it's getting through.
Governments aren't that competent to get this through at scale, but corporations can and have a very good reasob to do so.
I believe that it's a lot more probable that the reason is profit - social networks have a problem with bots. Advertisers don't want to pay if 90% of impressions are bots, and you can't really solve that problem easily.
Age verification by ID solves this, and if they even can lobby hard enough to outsource the costs to mandatory OS level veryfication, so they just call one OS api, it's even better.
This is propaganda buuullshit. This is governments selling mass surveillance pills to the public.
Just like Iran crack down by the US. Funny how US intelligence had 100% certainty of existence of weapons of mass destruction and 0% certainty of their location in Iranian soil
Sqw a hypothesis where Facebook and other companies lobbying for this were doing so to keep clank bot accounts out of the data they're scraping from social media sites. Seems pretty likely to me
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marcos@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 155d
And censorship.
Laggindragon@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 155d
Who needs the first amendment anyways!?
First_Thunder@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 155d
Well yeah, yall got so many of those that you could do without one or two
HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 155d
Amendments are just bandaids for a flawed constitution.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 154d
Two was supposed to protect one. :(
sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 155d
I don't, I don't really even know how the Constitution Act of 1867 has to with censorship.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 155d
and child abuse
hot take, preventing kids from accessing information their parents (or the government) deem inappropriate (such as queer resources, abortion resources and sex ed more generally), is child abuse
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts · 54 pts · 155d
Here’s the take I read elsewhere:
Here’s a chart I grabbed from elsewhere that shows how Meta is achieving this and how the money is exchanging hands:
Deme@sopuli.xyz · 19 pts · 155d
After they know if the user is human, the logical next step would be to nail down exactly which human. The governments would of course love that and the advertisers would start manipulating people on the individual level like never before. I wouldn't be surprised if this is also laying the foundations for some universal digital ID that would do just that.
dellish@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 155d
This is the theory I tend to believe.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 46 pts · 155d
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
This cartoon is a classic
Avicenna@programming.dev · 1 pts · 154d
never ages, perhaps can be extended as "restriction of personal freedoms"
possessedfaxmachine666@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 155d
Mikina@programming.dev · 16 pts · 155d
I don't think that"s the reason for the absird lobbying, which is why it's getting through.
Governments aren't that competent to get this through at scale, but corporations can and have a very good reasob to do so.
I believe that it's a lot more probable that the reason is profit - social networks have a problem with bots. Advertisers don't want to pay if 90% of impressions are bots, and you can't really solve that problem easily.
Age verification by ID solves this, and if they even can lobby hard enough to outsource the costs to mandatory OS level veryfication, so they just call one OS api, it's even better.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 15 pts · 155d
Big Tech would like to use this to supress open alternatives. Microsoft to stop Linux and that kind of thing.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 6 pts · 154d
You misspelled Microslop
Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 155d
Surveillance by a government full of pedophiles!
popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 154d
They need new sources.
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 155d
Didn't even try hard to hide itself.
how_we_burned@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 155d
They don’t even bother to lie badly anymore
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 155d
With a big push from Meta
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 154d
I so wish people had just gone "nah, no thanks" to Fecebook when it first came out.
It's the pile of shit that keeps on giving.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 155d
And they will get away with it.
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 155d
But what about the chiiiildrennnn?? Wont anyone think of them?
0_0j@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
This is propaganda buuullshit. This is governments selling mass surveillance pills to the public.
Just like Iran crack down by the US. Funny how US intelligence had 100% certainty of existence of weapons of mass destruction and 0% certainty of their location in Iranian soil
MasterNerd@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 154d
Sqw a hypothesis where Facebook and other companies lobbying for this were doing so to keep
clankbot accounts out of the data they're scraping from social media sites. Seems pretty likely to meHakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 154d
Always has been.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 154d
* government + corporate surveillance
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 154d
The mask wasn't even very good at concealing. Practically transparent.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 154d
Not to mention corporate surveillance. Companies would love to know your age.