Framework becomes a KDE Patron helping to fund open source
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/03/framework-becomes-a-kde-patron-helping-to-fund-open-source/
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/03/framework-becomes-a-kde-patron-helping-to-fund-open-source/
53 Comments
poke@sh.itjust.works · 94 pts · 177d
In this thread: perfect being the enemy of better.
Overall I am very happy with companies interacting with and funding the open source development community. I respect framework a whole lot more than dell, for example.
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 177d
Or the other manufacturer of high quality aluminium dev-spec laptops, who sent their CEO to the White House to give Trump a golden plaque.
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 2 pts · 176d
I'm not familiar with all the situation at that side of the pond... HP?
Carrot@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 176d
Apple
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 3 pts · 176d
Ah, OK, thanks. Now I remember I've seen some ridiculous photo of Orange man with golden plaque. Thought it was a joke/meme/AI slop, turns out it's real, lol.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 176d
Apple
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 176d
As others have commented, Apple ... but also when was the last time HP was a manufacturer of quality anything? ðŸ˜
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 176d
Was there a first time?
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 176d
Once upon a time, HP and quality were synonymous.
https://www.hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?class=3&cat=32
(Edit: Though apparently the 3000 had some issues early on. Which were notable because reliability and quality issues were so non-HP).
It was ... quite a while ago though. By the time I came to use HP gear in the late 90s and on, they still had a reputation for quality, though it was increasingly less deserved.
vaionko@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 175d
I swear by HP test equipment.
dankm@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 175d
I have an HP LaserJet 4050. I bought it with 450000 pages on it, and have likely put on another 20000. It was built in 1997, and still works perfectly. All of its maintenance parts are user-serviceable, its toner is generic and readily available, and it supports postscript and pcl. All you need to use it on a modern computer is a serial or parallel port, or use its internal network server that uses both the standard lpr protocol or HP jetdirect.
Yes, there absolutely was a time when HP made good stuff. It ended in the mid 2000s. When they stopped production of the HP 48 and 50 series calculators was the end of their good years.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 37 pts · 177d
Cool, but have they stopped supporting Nazis though?
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 45 pts · 177d
worth noting the platforms they use, too. they still promote their mastodon & bluesky accounts on their website, but they basically haven’t posted there in 4 months, since that’s where people called them on for their bullshit
on xitter tho? not only are they posting much more there, they’ve even paid the elon tax for that sweet blue checkmark!
framework, like any organization that declares itself a "big tent", has embraced their new audience of fascists even if it means disregarding everyone else.
i only hope kde can escape the toxic sludge this connection will bring them.
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 25 pts · 177d
I believe so: https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships
But if so, it is more that they are simply not continuing to make additional contributions in the future. There was no apology for any confusion or anything like that, and they seem to be sticking to their "big tent" philosophy.
Luci@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 177d
Hyprland is still on the list
meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 8 pts · 177d
What is wrong with Hyprland?
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 18 pts · 177d
A former moderator on their official Discord forum made some offensive remarks or something. That soured the entire project for some people for good, I guess.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 177d
Yeah, I've seen screenshots and their comments were pretty disgusting
olafurp@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 177d
And those comments don't reflect the views of the devs. The mod was the issue
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 7 pts · 176d
No, plenty came right out of Vaxry.
Last I looked they seemed to be trying to do better though. Way lower on the problematic list than anything DHH touches imo.
lastweakness@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 176d
Wait, really? The devs don't share those views?
Fizz@lemmy.nz · -5 pts · 177d
It really takes nothing for people to become eternal haters.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 176d
The creator, Vaxry, made many hateful comments. Mostly on Discord. I'm in the Arch Linux Community discord, which he got banned from a few years ago (I was not there at the time), and his message history there has tons of bad takes.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 176d
Dr_Del_Fuego@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 175d
What is the ethical fork of hyprland?
Luci@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 175d
Is it ethical to fork it?
Dr_Del_Fuego@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 175d
Yes it is. That is what forking is for
Luci@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 175d
So if you think a code base or project is unethical, forking it fixes the problem?
XLibre comes to mind.
Dr_Del_Fuego@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 175d
It's either fork and continue the work or start from scratch and hope the pattern doesn't repeat somehow 🤷
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 177d
They never gave Omarchy money directly from what I'm aware, just gave them shoutouts. Still not okay though
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 24 pts · 177d
Not quite technically "money directly", but definitely more than just "shoutouts"
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 17 pts · 177d
Are you referring to Omarchy by David Heinemeier Hansson? He's definitely a racist and not sponsored by Framework.
Can we also please stop calling every piece of shit a nazi?
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 32 pts · 177d
If someone is a violent ethnonationalist I'm gonna call them a Nazi. I think my earlier reply already addresses your first point.
quips@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 176d
Then you’re diluting the power of the word Nazi, and therefore giving actual Nazis an advantage.
warm@kbin.earth · 9 pts · 177d
Nope.
skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 177d
Context?
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 34 pts · 177d
Someone else probably can give better context, but basically Framework donated money to one project that had some controversy (I never actually saw much evidence for it being severe enough to really cause the type of backlash that Framework got) and repeatedly and disproportionately promoted another project by someone who seemingly to want mass deportation of brown people in London/UK and promotes such with the platform. Someone called framework on those two things and the CEO's response on their forum was a "we want to run a big OOS tent" and then went to xitter to whine about the community being mean to them.
Zikeji@programming.dev · 21 pts · 177d
If you have... Time, the forum post has a lot of the context and drama: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
Gaja0@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 176d
It's a bad time to learn that hyprland community is toxic. I've used it for a long while now pretty comfortably.
Seeing Framework give money to DHH is like watching someone step on a rake and defending it.
I'm tired of idiots who defend anything as long as they like it, and only care about morality when they're offended.
I saw the same thing happen with popular new game Mewgenics where creator of Binding of Isaac, Edmund, defended including Chris Chan, who couldn't be found guilty of SA'ing their demented mother on account of their autism.
It's not only decision but the defense that makes these things look bad. They need to give money to fascists. They need to include controversial people. The people who defend it seem like they perceive criticism as personal attacks and retaliate in bad faith arguments.
At this point I'm venting. Lemmy is great because it tends to attract people who are less pressured to conform to their tribes, which is great for having authentic discussions.
Zikeji@programming.dev · 4 pts · 176d
I mean if just the community is toxic I just wouldn't participate - if it's some negative trait is that. I can use a tool and not contribute to that toxicity.
But for moral issues like supporting a project that I'm turn supports fascism, homophobia, etc. I will protest by simply not bring a user. I don't make this part of my identity, I probably should though - I don't check these things, I only find out.
It's a bummer too because I was planning on getting a framework laptop. Wound up just getting another Lenovo business laptop secondhand lol.
skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 177d
JFC
kugmo@sh.itjust.works · -35 pts · 177d
who are they supporting that has killed jewish people?
lime@feddit.nu · 29 pts · 177d
the goalposts are in fucking orbit
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 26 pts · 177d
Most Nazis never killed Jewish people. Did Hitler ever even kill a Jewish person himself? Were the people in the Nazi party not Nazis in 1932 because the holocaust hadn't started yet? And the genocide included far more than just Jewish people.
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 177d
AKTUALY Murdering Innocent Civilians is AS Jewish as you can BE!
-The ADL, AIPAC, The BBC!
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 177d
Love these guys. Have one of their laptops and one of my friends recently ordered one as well. :)
Danitos@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 177d
I wanted to buy one but they are so damn expensive. DDR5 prices don't help neither.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 176d
I was lucky enough to nab one before hardware prices went to the fucking moon. Specs are good enough that hopefully it'll last me until prices drop again and I can afford to do selective upgrades on parts.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 177d
yep and they reduced gnome down to $0 after gnome called them nazi’s
good work gnome, you played yourself
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 177d
Oh, I should start donating to Gnome.
silverneedle@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 176d
A GNOME developer essentially called Framework's CEO fashy. GNOME as a project did not deride Framework as Nazis.
Skv@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 177d
Laptops looked neat, then I looked at pricing and possible I/O combos and Lenovo still kills it.
RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 177d
Saw them as a possible thinkpad replacement but noped at the pricing then double noped after the I/O options. They are awesome machines though, glad they're around, without them I'm not so sure Lenovo would have made the new T series so repairable.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 177d
Framework is nothing more, than a compromise with the enshittification came from the push of techbro journos soyfacing over ultrathin Macbooks, and having meltdowns if a notebook isn't made with "high quality premium materials".
kugmo@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 177d