JD Vance, the vice-president of the United States, said this weekend that he considers aliens to be “demons”.
As the war in Iran continues, petrol and grocery prices soar and chaos continues at US airports as a partial government shutdown endures, Vance appeared on the conservative Benny Show podcast, released Saturday, to promise that he would spend time looking into what he called his “obsession” with UFOs and extraterrestrial visitors.
Johnson, who bills his show as the place for “cutting, behind-the-scenes insight into the global conflict for freedom”, wondered if Vance, who has been noticeably quiet about Donald Trump’s war in the Middle East that he is said to oppose, had yet looked at any of the files about unidentified flying objects – known these days as unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs) – which the president has promised to release.
“I actually haven’t,” Vance replied, mustering significantly more enthusiasm than for any previous question about the US-Israel military strikes on Iran.
“I have not been able to spend enough time on this, but I am going to. Trust me, I’m obsessed with this.”
The God-fearing vice-president’s fixation, it was further revealed, extended to the question of the existence of extraplanetary beings, and where they might fit into a wider conversation about religion.
“I don’t think they’re aliens, I think they’re demons anyway, but that’s a longer discussion,” he said.
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HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 47 pts · 127d
Jfc. The shit this administration spews - and expects the American public to swallow - is epic in its proportions.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 127d
The entire and sole reason they say dumb shit like this, is because they know useful idiots will spread it and suck up everyone's bandwidth for political news.
Everyone that pays attention to this obvious distraction, has less fucks and time to give about important shit.
The media at least has the excuse of being owned by billionaires with a financial incentive to spread it...
rossman@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 127d
we should call this out as engagement bait. the media gets ad revenue and these posts are rage comedy identification depending on your politics. No actual journalism here.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
Try telling OP that...
They do it constantly and likely have blocked me for trying to explain things to them already.
Replying to someone to say "this" tho...
Almost always useless, go tell someone else that doesn't know if you think it's a good idea
rossman@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 127d
yeah meant no negativity. i upvoted and agreed with you cause i feel the exact way after seeing enough of these posts.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 4 pts · 127d
SculptusPoe@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 127d
Skyrmir@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 127d
I was curious, and apparently while the VP does get full clearance automatically, they don't get full access automatically, due to need to know compartmentalization rules. So Vance is cleared for anything area 51 reports to the White House, but not cleared to go there unless Trump says there's a reason. I doubt that would be much of a speed bump, but technically there is a restriction.
SculptusPoe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
Skyrmir@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
The IG departments really need to be given full clearance and taken away from the executive. The parties have also almost completely broken checks and balances at this point, the orange turd is of course abusing it, but in general too much power has been given to the parties, and our checks have been badly eroded by a lazy and weak congress.
SculptusPoe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
Fondots@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 127d
For the record, I don't think the government is in contact or aware of alien life, at least not any technologically advanced civilization (I'm open to the possibility of maybe them being aware of microbial life on Mars or Europa or something and keeping it under wraps)
But, if they were, and assuming we're talking about a civilization based in another star system (as opposed to somewhere in our solar system or maybe in interstellar space somewhere) I think it's a pretty safe bet that that's being handled by people in the military and the president, etc. are all kept out of the loop.
Because it would take too damn long to get a message back and forth to them assuming they don't immediately give us the key to FTL travel or communications.
Let's assume that first contact was made in January 1993, and one of Clinton's first acts as president is to acknowledge that we received their message, introduce himself, and signals that he's willing to open a dialogue with them.
He fires off that message, let's say it's to proxima Centauri, the closest star to us, it takes a little over 4 years to get there, arriving around early to mid 1997.
They reply and we get their next message probably mid to late 2001 (I really don't feel like crunching the exact numbers of how long these messages are taking to travel or speculating how long it's taking to draft our messages.)
Bubba is out of office, and Dubya needs to be brought up to speed on the alien situation right around the same time 9/11 is going down. He fires off a reply, and gets back to starting a war in the middle east.
Aliens get that reply around late 2005, and send another reply. We get that around early 2010. Obama's been in office for about a year, things have kind of settled down a bit. He fires on another reply, it arrives around 2014, aliens are starting to get the picture that they're probably not going to have a real back and forth conversation with the same president. They send a reply.
Their reply reaches Trump in 2018 sometime. He rambles at them a bit, they get it in about 2022, the aliens aren't at all sure what to make of that, they think maybe the transmission got corrupted somehow. What they do make out sounds like insane raving bullshit, but at least this guy will be gone soon and they can get back to talking to a real grown up with the next message.
They don't learn about COVID, or Jan 6, or any of the other stuff going on. Biden get skipped over, Donny is about to receive that reply in a few months, he's gonna be the first president to have an actual back and forth with the aliens, and he's probably gonna be pissed that they're asking if we can put Obama back on the phone.
So yeah, not a great way to be having a conversation. It probably makes a lot more sense to give that responsibility to maybe some career military types, or maybe some unelected pencil-pushers whose government careers can last decades and have more of an opportunity to select and train their successors to ensure smoother communications, and to keep the president and politicians as far out of the loop as possible, because there's a good chance they could be out of office before they can actually get anything done.
The dynamic changes a bit if we're talking to someone closer, if maybe we're dealing with a fleet that's parked somewhere in or near our solar system that's authorized to act autonomously from their home planet. Maybe then we could loop the president in a little more, but if they do ever need to phone home for something we'd still have the same problem.
Or if they're further away than the closest star to us, the problem gets even worse. Let's say instead of proxima Centauri at about 4¼ light-years away, they're instead based around Altair at about 16.7 light-years away. They would have gotten Clinton's message in around late 2009 or 2010, and we're probably just about due to finally hear back from them in the next couple of months.
starik@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 127d
He doesn’t believe any of this. He’s pandering to the dumb, too-online young right wing men who get their news and opinions from comedians’ podcasts.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 126d
Joe Rogan loves alien experts. The dumber the better. These guys are all grifting idiots.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 127d
How utterly moronic and irrelevant.
Where are the Epstein files?
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 23 pts · 127d
We get it. He’s trying to distract everyone from the Epstein files. Even for Vance, though, this is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 127d
Love how many of the government officials sound like they have a traumatic brain injury and/or uncontrolled schizophrenia.
Mirshe@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 127d
Neither in this case, I think Vance is on that good old-fashioned zealotry of the convert.
8oow3291d@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 126d
Vance famously said that Trump was America's Hitler. And then when given the chance for power, enthusiastically became Trump's VP. Vance is also quite intelligent, if lazy. Vance is obviously a nihilist opportunist.
So my money is on Vance not believing a word of it. But just saying it because Vance thinks it will give him votes when he runs for US President.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 127d
Also isn't he from Ohio? Like even if he is a yuppie the craziness probably stuck to him.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 127d
wuffah@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 127d
This is a standard deflection job where the chronic magical thinking of the electorate is leveraged to distract from the real problems representatives cannot solve - Hypernormalisation.
If we’re dead from famine, drought, climate change, and war, do Aliens and Demons really fucking matter?
Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 127d
Great. He's not just a horrible person. He's also completely deranged.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 127d
That's an essential qualification for this administration.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 126d
Aliens were on Epstein Island.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 127d
Are you getting it yet? Gobble it up, read it, be outraged, comment and that’s another 5 minutes you’re not talking about the Epstein Files or the fact that the world is run off a cliff by a child rapist who has a couch fucker as backup.
Stop posting this, stop reading it, stop upvoting it. Take him down, don’t fall for the distractions, educate others on flood the zone.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 126d
At this point I feel like it might be easier to just ask "What is he not trying to distract from?"
andrewta@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 127d
Plot twist: he’s actually telling the truth and is just getting us ready for the video game Doom too come to life.
riskable@programming.dev · 3 pts · 127d
Jokes on him: Wolfenstein is more likely.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 5 pts · 127d
Can we please get them all removed for being insane?
grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 5 pts · 127d
Hillbilly Space Alien vies for top GOP spot in 2028 national election
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 127d
He's a Harvard educated Lawyer, dude isn't stupid. But, damned if he isn't pretending to be.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 127d
Oh fuck. Can't catch a break with this turd circus.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 126d
The aliens/demons should take him away.
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 126d
He'd make a hilarious zoo exhibit. "In order to study his human reproduction, we needed a human who would accept a proxy. This specimen was, fortunately, ideal for our research purposes."
001Guy001@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 127d
The real demons are the friends Epstein made along the way...
Gumbyyy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
Just some more totally normal shit for a US Vice President to be saying
sploosh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
Mel Gibson made him watch Signs.
Teknikal@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 127d
Case of saying any old shit to avoid being questioned on real issues. If he actually believes it give him a labotomy in fact I'd be in favor of that either way.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
Not surprising, he seems to think the same of plenty of his fellow H. sapiens
standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 127d
They (this administration )really just getting ideas from the history channel now aren’t they
fonix232@fedia.io · 2 pts · 127d
Great, so he now wants to start a religious war with aliens too? It ain't enough that the US will again get their arse handed to them in Iran, we need to provoke beings that can literally travel not twice as far BUT TWICE AS MANY DIGITS humanity has managed to travel, in an insignificant amount of time?