I always thought it was weird when certain friends celebrated when they turned 18. These poor girls have been exploited since their birth. IDK it just seemed very weird.
They're worth billions, they get to make their own rules now.
They certainly didn't have a childhood to speak of, and were likely exploited in a dozen ways, but they and their children and their childrens children will never work or want for anything in their lives.
I knew people who started a "countdown until we can look at porn of them." I didn't understand that at all. I think it's reasonable to assume that they're not waiting until 00:01 on their birthday to snap some nudes and then slowly wait for them to load to the Internet. Which means anything you're looking at is either underaged or fake with underaged faces; both of which do not contain the proper consent to be okay.
But the strangest of all was how many of these people said that the Olsen twins weren't all that hot. So, I'd ask why this was worth all the effort. They said because they'd get to see Michelle naked. I had some serious unresolved sexual issues at that age, but that answer always irked me. It felt like those dads who get all pervy about their daughters turning "legal", or brothers about their sisters.
That's a seriously bold claim that you don't bother to support at all and just take as common knowledge. After doing a few minutes of searching: what the absolute fuck are you even talking about?
Genuinely the most I can find are a small handful of trashy outlets like The Sun (at the least trashy) talking about a baseless Twitter accusation against Bob Saget after his death and then – even as trashy as they are – unanimously arriving at the conclusion that Saget unequivocally did nothing to them. (To that end, I can't even find anything about Saget having ever interacted with Epstein, so there's a baseless, nonsense Twitter accusation – only discussed by the trashiest outlets who have every incentive to imply that it's true for clicks but instead deny it completely – about a man with no connection to Epstein.)
No names, no sources (probably because there's jack shit), no anything, so what exactly the fuck are you basing "most likely" on?
It needn’t be a conspiracy for it to be harmful. I remember a creepy countdown timer for when they (and others) turned 18. The projection of that, and the pressure to retain their childhood traits for profitability, can fuck someone up.
Yeah, no, I totally agree that sexualization by the public when they were underage (even as adults) probably took a psychological toll, as it probably does on a lot of teen stars (and IIRC it was quite bad with Mary-Kate & Ashley).
That is a completely different statement from "they were most likely molested by some of Epstein's Hollywood buddies".
I don't think we even need to go that far. They were almost constantly making those direct to VHS movies and such they churned out in huge numbers, and I don't think it was easy on them. I'm convinced they were overworked as children.
Pfffffffffffffft. What a chode. "I hedged with 'most likely' bro so you can't poke holes in the ridiculous bullshit I'm asserting with zero evidence." You'd be really good at JAQing off. "Were the Olsen twins sold into sex slavery on Epstein's Island? We can't say for sure, but it's impossible to rule out."
Nobody is defending pedophiles. They're defending the necessity of some form of proof of your claim besides, "I feel like..." and otherwise baseless allegations.
Do you have anything better to do than make false claims on the internet that you know nothing about and have no evidence (even circumstantial) besides, "my gut tells me..."
"There's more than a 50% chance that Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen were sexually molested by multiple (you decided to pluralize it; not me) Epstein affiliates in Hollywood" is a massive stretch that you present zero evidence for and confidently assert. It's becoming increasingly clear with your responses that you genuinely have a problem.
Did I make you uncomfortable with consuming the lives of the Olsen twins like a cheap and disposable drug?
Dude holy shit, seek help. I have never once in my life given an iota of a shit about the Olsen twins or anything they've been involved with. I might've seen one episode of Full House by coincidence, and I played an nth-hand copy of Mary-Kate and Ashley: Sweet 16 – Licensed to Drive for the PS2 two decades after its release (when the twins were nearly 40 and the publisher and developer had been defunct for years) for about 30 minutes as a gag. This is the first time I can remember seeing a picture of the Olsen twins in years, and I only responded to your comment because it's so insane (I genuinely knew so little that I assumed I'd completely missed out on a scandal and tried in good faith to find out what happened).
Your willingness to assume anything without evidence as long as it feels correct to you is staggering.
You realize the "most likely" is far, far different from "could possibly have been." It does not sound at all like you're just conjecturing with no evidence.
The words have one meaning. It's also one of the most common phrases in the English language. You essentially said that they were probably molested by some of Epstein's friends in Hollywood. You made this claim without any evidence. This is an irresponsible and stupid thing to say. That's why everyone thinks you're a dumbass.
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desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone · 70 pts · 148d
I always thought it was weird when certain friends celebrated when they turned 18. These poor girls have been exploited since their birth. IDK it just seemed very weird.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 148d
I’m glad they’re living on their terms and decided not to do that cheesy reboot.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 148d
They're worth billions, they get to make their own rules now.
They certainly didn't have a childhood to speak of, and were likely exploited in a dozen ways, but they and their children and their childrens children will never work or want for anything in their lives.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d
And it’s absolutely what they deserve. 🩷💕
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 148d
That one Robot Chicken skit:
Onlookers as Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen enter a building
“I’m so excited!”
“Why?”
“Because… they’re ‘legal.’”
“Dude, you’re 35.”
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 147d
They celebrated when they turned 18...and then never spoke of them again.
I was wondering what happened to the Olsen twins after they turned 18. Apparently, they turned into ringwraiths.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d
I knew people who started a "countdown until we can look at porn of them." I didn't understand that at all. I think it's reasonable to assume that they're not waiting until 00:01 on their birthday to snap some nudes and then slowly wait for them to load to the Internet. Which means anything you're looking at is either underaged or fake with underaged faces; both of which do not contain the proper consent to be okay.
But the strangest of all was how many of these people said that the Olsen twins weren't all that hot. So, I'd ask why this was worth all the effort. They said because they'd get to see Michelle naked. I had some serious unresolved sexual issues at that age, but that answer always irked me. It felt like those dads who get all pervy about their daughters turning "legal", or brothers about their sisters.
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 5 pts · 148d
The grosses part of peoppe celebrsting (in general) that some.actress is 18. It feels like they act like its all "free game" for everything previous.
Like, ok, whatever, you find some.actress attractive, thats part of the job, I guess? Pervy, but whatever.
Ok, you are "acting better" by waiting for her to be 18, kimd of really gross, but ok.
But then its like "oh, she is 18, now all these pics when she was 14-17 are fair game!". Like, dude, no, thats not hownage works at all.
Anyway, examples are more to prove my point than any deep personal opinion on the matter.
starsoaked_lily@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 148d
hopefully you know how to pick better friends now
desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 147d
Me, too.
78reed_etib@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 149d
allseen twins
IHeartBadCode@fedia.io · 16 pts · 149d
I shall name the first one Hodos (ὁδός) and the other Ora (ώρα). For the words way and time (as in the time something happens).
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 147d
What language is that?
goldfndr@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 147d
It's all Greek to me.
IHeartBadCode@fedia.io · 1 pts · 146d
Greek.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 147d
Buccal fat removal is just awful. It always ages people by making them look more gaunt.
Stowaway@midwest.social · 12 pts · 148d
Why do they make me think of the dark crystal?
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 148d
TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 148d
"October 27, 2036...stay away from electricity."
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 148d
Yeah, they have a very cool vibe.
MunkyNutts@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 148d
Now does the same one always look like they just smelt it and the other like they just dealt the fart?
altphoto@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 147d
They look 75.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 148d
These comments certainly took a turn!
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 148d
I see what you mean...
X@piefed.world · 3 pts · 149d
Their blessing is bounded by the curse of not knowing that knowing mine is the cause of their demise.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -40 pts · 149d
Why are we laughing at what are most likely molestation victims from some of Epstein's Hollywood buddies? Edit to fix a spelling error.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 149d
That's a seriously bold claim that you don't bother to support at all and just take as common knowledge. After doing a few minutes of searching: what the absolute fuck are you even talking about?
Genuinely the most I can find are a small handful of trashy outlets like The Sun (at the least trashy) talking about a baseless Twitter accusation against Bob Saget after his death and then – even as trashy as they are – unanimously arriving at the conclusion that Saget unequivocally did nothing to them. (To that end, I can't even find anything about Saget having ever interacted with Epstein, so there's a baseless, nonsense Twitter accusation – only discussed by the trashiest outlets who have every incentive to imply that it's true for clicks but instead deny it completely – about a man with no connection to Epstein.)
No names, no sources (probably because there's jack shit), no anything, so what exactly the fuck are you basing "most likely" on?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 149d
It needn’t be a conspiracy for it to be harmful. I remember a creepy countdown timer for when they (and others) turned 18. The projection of that, and the pressure to retain their childhood traits for profitability, can fuck someone up.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 149d
Yeah, no, I totally agree that sexualization by the public when they were underage (even as adults) probably took a psychological toll, as it probably does on a lot of teen stars (and IIRC it was quite bad with Mary-Kate & Ashley).
That is a completely different statement from "they were most likely molested by some of Epstein's Hollywood buddies".
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 148d
I don't think we even need to go that far. They were almost constantly making those direct to VHS movies and such they churned out in huge numbers, and I don't think it was easy on them. I'm convinced they were overworked as children.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d
Yep
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -22 pts · 149d
Hollywood is full of deviant executives. It's not a stretch for my SPECULATIVE STATEMENT.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 149d
Pfffffffffffffft. What a chode. "I hedged with 'most likely' bro so you can't poke holes in the ridiculous bullshit I'm asserting with zero evidence." You'd be really good at JAQing off. "Were the Olsen twins sold into sex slavery on Epstein's Island? We can't say for sure, but it's impossible to rule out."
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -17 pts · 149d
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 149d
Nobody is defending pedophiles. They're defending the necessity of some form of proof of your claim besides, "I feel like..." and otherwise baseless allegations.
Do you have anything better to do than make false claims on the internet that you know nothing about and have no evidence (even circumstantial) besides, "my gut tells me..."
Touch grass and eat ants.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d
Stop doubling down on being a harmful idiot.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -13 pts · 149d
Hence why I said what I said. Hollywood is full of sexually deviant executives, my speculative statement isn't a stretch.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 149d
"There's more than a 50% chance that Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen were sexually molested by multiple (you decided to pluralize it; not me) Epstein affiliates in Hollywood" is a massive stretch that you present zero evidence for and confidently assert. It's becoming increasingly clear with your responses that you genuinely have a problem.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -7 pts · 149d
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 149d
Yep.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -6 pts · 149d
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -6 pts · 149d
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 149d
Dude holy shit, seek help. I have never once in my life given an iota of a shit about the Olsen twins or anything they've been involved with. I might've seen one episode of Full House by coincidence, and I played an nth-hand copy of Mary-Kate and Ashley: Sweet 16 – Licensed to Drive for the PS2 two decades after its release (when the twins were nearly 40 and the publisher and developer had been defunct for years) for about 30 minutes as a gag. This is the first time I can remember seeing a picture of the Olsen twins in years, and I only responded to your comment because it's so insane (I genuinely knew so little that I assumed I'd completely missed out on a scandal and tried in good faith to find out what happened).
Your willingness to assume anything without evidence as long as it feels correct to you is staggering.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -6 pts · 149d
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 149d
And you are? Please tell me how you're protesting, how you're so much better at fighting corrupt systems. Please. I need a hearty laugh today.
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 149d
Citation needed.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -19 pts · 149d
My statement was speculative in nature, hence the "most likely" aspect of it.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 149d
You realize the "most likely" is far, far different from "could possibly have been." It does not sound at all like you're just conjecturing with no evidence.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -20 pts · 149d
I'm just talking like most people from the US in their polarized delusions.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 149d
What the hell is wrong with you?
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 149d
They had a few strokes and decided to make it other people's problem.
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -4 pts · 149d
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 149d
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 7 pts · 149d
Do you know what the words "most likely" mean?
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · -6 pts · 149d
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 3 pts · 148d
The words have one meaning. It's also one of the most common phrases in the English language. You essentially said that they were probably molested by some of Epstein's friends in Hollywood. You made this claim without any evidence. This is an irresponsible and stupid thing to say. That's why everyone thinks you're a dumbass.
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 147d
This guy fucking gets it.
stenAanden@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 149d
I didn't know that... But I find them to be inspiring if anything.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 149d
Like they gained the ability to curse their abusers.
Lydia_K@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 149d
That is shockingly likely to be true