US President Donald Trump is seeking $152m (£115m) to reopen the infamous Alcatraz prison as part of his proposed budget for the 2027 fiscal year.
Located near San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge, the site, also known as The Rock, was once regarded as one of America's most notorious prisons, but has served as a tourist attraction in recent years.
The budget request is seeking money "to rebuild Alcatraz as a state-of-the-art secure prison facility", with funds covering the first year of costs.
The plan has been met with scepticism by a number of politicians in California, with questions raised about the final cost of the project and the challenges of running Alcatraz as an active prison.
The maximum security facility was closed in 1963. As a tourist site, it is currently run by the National Park Service.
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frongt@lemmy.zip · 106 pts · 146d
Only on the condition that it's only used to imprison him, the members of his administrations, and the architects at organizations like the heritage foundation, and then I'll even chip in some of my own money.
homes@piefed.world · 39 pts · 146d
And that it continue to be used as a tourist site, so people can go there and look at him and the other prisoners there like zoo animals.
Steve@startrek.website · 9 pts · 145d
Look at? You get to piss on them from above.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 146d
One more condition.
The tourists have access to a button that injects Trump with a tiny, survivable dose of the nerve gas from The Rock.
ProfessorHoover@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 144d
Wouldn't that just get pushed until he dies anyway, like that Black Mirror episode where they torture the uploaded consciousness of a man for entertainment?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 144d
Yes, that's the hope.
Like yeah, you'd have to have some limiter on it so that it wouldn't just kill him quickly, but yes, the goal is absolutely to put him through as much excruciating pain as possible, in public.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 146d
It could be his own Elba. I would be willing to chip in for that while we eradicate Trumpists from government.
jonesey71@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 145d
Can the gift shop do souvenirs to order? Like if I wanted one of his tiny fingers from his tiny hands?
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 146d
Will they accept foreign donations?
frongt@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 146d
They're been taking foreign gifts for plenty of other things, so I don't see why not.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 146d
Alcatraz was closed because it was a scam not worth operating like Trump's casinos and his marriages.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 145d
I thought it was because maintaining an island is a bitch and it's easier to build a prison in the middle of a desert with the same effect IE Fulton.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 145d
Yeah so the boat company made money the supply companies. The city and government of San Francisco. Everyone was on the take.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 144d
likely he wants to use Alcatraz as a laundering scheme, like his casino with russian money via deustche bank.
4grams@awful.systems · 44 pts · 146d
What a fucking moron.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 146d
Buddy, $152m won’t even bring it up to code. Not that he cares.
TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 146d
Been a minute since I’ve been there—is there even a source of potable water on the island, or was that shipped in as well?
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 146d
It’s still all shipped in and out to my knowledge.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 146d
Nope. All shipped in.
tal@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 146d
I assume not, given its size, but I mean...it's just a mile from San Francisco.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 144d
it takes billions from what ive heard.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 145d
$152 million won’t even bring it up to code. The answer is no. Quit distracting us with this nonsense and just go to Hell. Satan’s waiting.
null@lemmy.org · 22 pts · 145d
We’re fighting wars. We can’t take care of daycare.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
We can’t take care of daycare.
monketman82@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Lisa needs braces..
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
It can only good happen!
athatet@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 145d
kreskin@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 145d
He's spending money like crazy on useless stuff we dont need.
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 145d
As intended. They're trying to crash the dollar/currency system to replace it with some crypto backed nonsense. Well that and to make sure the technofascists can own everything.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
I guess this is why you can never give a president the power of the purse.
This highlights another breakage in the setup of the American system-- citizens need the power to recall both congressional reps and the president, and justices. It cant just be by periodic elections, and impeachment isnt really a functional process. It barely exists as a check/balance.
Its almost as if the founding fathers designed the system to be subject to special interests acting outside of citizens interests. I think they mistrusted the people more than they mistrustsed aristorcats and wealthy people like themselves. Not beleivers in true democracy at all, in the end.
echodot@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 145d
I've been to Alcatraz prison and gone on the tour and one of the things that she spoke about was how much of a pain it was being on an island. Since you're totally the mercy of the sea is to whether or not you can get supplies in.
The only real advantage of Alcatraz was that it was difficult to escape from but you can get the exact same result with fencing and guards, so there's no point putting up with the logistical challenges have been stuck on an island, which is why it was closed.
monketman82@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
What makes you think dUmpf wants to provide supplies to the island?
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 145d
The Rock has been on the TV again I see
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 15 pts · 146d
Have him tour the place and do the part where they put him in a cell and lock it. But then skip the part where they open it back up.
night_petal@piefed.social · 15 pts · 145d
I fucking hate being stuck in the US. It is legitimately embarrassing. I wish I could move, but that takes years and tens of thousands of dollars to do correctly, even if you were to try to go somewhere with a low GDP.
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
We pay taxes for this. For all this shit.
IronBird@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 145d
are you relatively financially secure (able to park couple grand in a stock, and not be tempted/forced to liquidate it) and willing to take investment advice from a complete stranger over the internet? could speed this whole process up greatly
TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com · 14 pts · 146d
Donnie, honey, tell me you’ve never been to Alcatraz without telling me you’ve never been to Alcatraz.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 13 pts · 146d
That dipshit isn’t even asking for Sean Connery, Nicolas Cage and Ed Harris to work there?
pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 145d
One of many deeply frustrating things about Trump's fire hose of terrible and frequently actively evil ideas is that not only do they come in such volumes that it's overwhelming, but it's also incredibly hard to tell if something is a brief fixation he will quickly move on from or something that is going to be a recurring issue to deal with.
Which is to say: Christ, he's back on this one again?
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 145d
Kill 2 birds with one stone and make it into a ballroom.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 3 pts · 145d
I second this. It seems everyone in Lumpty Trumpty’s orbit is either:
A rapist, child abuser, fraudster, and/or a war criminal.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
Putin's running dog.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 145d
Actually would be kind of interesting plot to a movie.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 145d
Isn't it technically a national park? Therefore the direct property of the United States people?
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 145d
Like the national parks they're attempting to sell? You gotta understand, there is no law anymore. Without enforcement, they are just words.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Trump technically works for the people. I don't think technicalities matter anymore.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 144d
Lock up the Trump administration there. No heat no nothing f those losers
daannii@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 145d
So apparently water has to be brought to it in tanks. And most of it is crumbling.
It was closed for good reasons.
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 145d
This is so stupid
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 145d
Do we get to put him there when the renovations are done?
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 145d
The worst part is he'll probably get it. But ask for $152m to improve infrastructure and Republicans say no while Democrats say "No. #blm :)"
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 146d
Apex symbol politics
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
ADX Florence is far stiffer and built for even worse criminals while having much less logistical and operational issues vs. Alcatraz.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 144d
it would cost a lot more than that.
CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 145d
Build one on Mars
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
To use as a political prison.
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 4 pts · 146d
Haven’t heard about this in a few months. I had hoped that someone who understood what a logistical nightmare it would be had talked him out of it.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 145d
Of course Trump wants to reopen Alcatraz.
It is famously a prison where the worst criminals went. And just as famously, a prisoner escaped, never to be seen again.
He's just planning ahead. Personal plans. They're not particularly good plans, they're not cunning plans - in fact, they're pretty stupid plans, to be perfectly honest.
santa@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 145d
Dude grasping at straws at this point…
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 144d
it was made good use by YURI in RA2.
eletes@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 145d
I can't imagine his friends at Geo group want it
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Priorities, I guess.
Paragone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
There's a webpage by a former fundamentalist on .. would Evangelicals recognize the antichrist?
Then he goes through the Christian & Jewish prophecies..
Here's 1 from Book of Daniel, ch 11: notice the explicit mention of strongholds/fortresses..
That's from CJB, which obviously Benjamin L. Corey doesn't use, but I find it less-overinterpreted, cleaner to the source material, & usually giving a clearer-view into the warnings..
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+11&version=CJB
The antichrist page is https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/ with its section on fortresses..
Please keep in mind that
any time your continuum/soul is trying to communicate MEANING to you, that communication must go through your unconscious-mind and it will distort the message, as it is acting as a "lens".. AND
the more your unconscious-mind's assumptions are strong, the more-distorting they are of the message. I complain about modern bibles over-interpreting/distorting the messages, but Daniel himself was distorting the message, because he was re-mapping it onto his local geopolitics, instead of letting it pertain to countries which had no basis in his world ( & Daniel was among the best of the visioneers )
humankind's history is cyclical: the biblical prophecies about the "towering monster, with steel teeth & clay feet" kind of thing actually refers to end-of-Age empire, strong, but decaying/rotted/corrupt .. which happens to match BOTH The Roman Empire AND The US's Empire.
So, there's a kind of double-refraction going-on, which has to be managed, too.
Do see it for the brilliant warning it was, though: there's stuff in Daniel ( about the "tribulation" ), & in Rev ( about "armageddon" ) which exactly pertains to what's unfolding, now..
I'd prefer it be called The Great Filter, because that's what it is, functionally: it filters-out all the won't-grow-up world-species, force-extinguishing 'em all.
The American Indians called it The Great Purification, & have been knowing about it for the last 9-10 centuries.
Anyways, when one sees through the appearances, to know what actually is usable, then the warnings of the past sometimes forearm one, re the pending changes.
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green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 146d