Pope says Trump's threat to destroy Iranian civilization is 'truly unacceptable'
https://apnews.com/article/pope-leo-iran-trump-threat-unacceptable-332059536d7c4d6071c8f5abb35d8c8d
https://apnews.com/article/pope-leo-iran-trump-threat-unacceptable-332059536d7c4d6071c8f5abb35d8c8d
51 Comments
Bloefz@lemmy.world · 111 pts · 137d
What's more worrying is that nobody else is saying it.
Sure it's a horrible regime but they're not the only ones going to be suffering
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 49 pts · 137d
I am surprised a lot of people think that being a "horrible regime" justifies genocide. Is this train of thought human at all? Because the Iranians are not going around bombing civilians in other countries.
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 137d
If you're really surprised, you haven't been paying attention to the last several centuries of human history...
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 137d
I think that there are a lot of ghouls out there trying to use moral relativism to justify mass murder. My answer to them is "We destroyed the nazis for a reason"
Mac@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 137d
Did we?
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 137d
Us and the Soviets
But only after the other European allies paid the price in blood to hold them for as long as possible.
LeonineAlpha@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 136d
Then the US HIRED nazis, for example the
"I aim for the moon, but sometimes I hit London" Crew
Those guys later went on to work for Eti Amin (Congo Space Race!)
And they built Gadahfis bunkers...
So thanks for employing the Nazis USA
Scubus@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 136d
I personally think the genocide of the human race is justified, but anything short of every single person is just needless slaughter and causes more suffering than it solves.
But yes, I believe this because as a general rule humans are fucking stupid animals who figured out violence and oppression and then never evolved past that.
LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · -4 pts · 137d
Uhhh.....what? They absolutely are. Have you missed the whole Ukrainian war thing? Still nothing justifies genocide and this is all to placate a war hungry megalomaniac with pedophilic obsessions. But Iran has undeniably contributed heavily to Ukrainian civilian deaths via Shahed drone production.
Helloooo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 136d
Ukraine also participated in iraq war along with usa which killed a million iraqi civilians , ukraine prior to russian war supplied weapons to many african countries which commited human right violations aganist people of other countries and their own people, does that mean war on ukraine is justified. Similarly iran government supported russia by providing shaheed drones doens't justify usa/israel bombing in iran and killing innocent civilians
LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 136d
Yeah, no shit Sherlock. That's not the argument. The point of contention was the claim that Iran doesn't kill foreign civilians.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 136d
also to note, its a regime that is result of UK/US installing the shah and then the islamic revolution happened, so its pretty much the fault of the US AND UK.
Bloefz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 136d
True, and they trained Osama Bin Laden as well when he was in the mudjaheddeen.
Really when does this stuff ever work out?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 136d
to continue justifying funding the MIC, and israel.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 137d
The European Council president said it was unacceptable yesterday: https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-warn-donald-trump-illegal-bombing-iran-power-station-antonio-costa/
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 72 pts · 137d
When the pope is spitting more facts than the news. What a time to be alive.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 137d
Careful with your words or Vance will kill you
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 137d
I reckon the Pope could kick Vance's ass TBh
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 136d
It's a joke about the previous Pope bcz JD Vance saw him the day before he died.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 136d
Then excommunicate Trumps VP, or at least threaten to do it.
ragas@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 136d
Trump probably isn't even part of the catholic church so he can't excommunicate him.
ytg@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 136d
I think the comment was about Vance
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 136d
Yea, I know Vance wrote a book about his catholic conversion.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 136d
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 136d
sexy_peach@feddit.org · 11 pts · 137d
Too bad the pope can't enforce his will
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 137d
If the Vatican had kept its nukes, maybe he could.
Link@rentadrunk.org · 9 pts · 137d
The Vatican had nukes?
0ops@piefed.zip · 30 pts · 137d
Right next to their holy hand grenades, yes
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 137d
They kept five... uh... THREE!
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 136d
shouldve summoned the bunny,.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 136d
they have a anti-matter device.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 137d
I would watch this movie
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 137d
Somebody stole the Holy H-Bomb of Antioch. A team of Vatican operatives is dispatched to find it before the story hits the press. Reporters pull some threads and start taking rumors of the heist a little more seriously by the time the bomb is located. Action scene on a ship in bad weather, baddies get pulped, biblically-inspired one-liners add insult to fatal injury.
Because of details, the team has to heroically sacrifice itself to scuttle the ship (conveniently located over a deep trench or other feature to make recovery practically impossible). Cool explosion with what's left in the effects budget.
Final scenes open on a Vatican spokesperson successfully convincing a bunch of reporters that there's nothing to these crazy stories about the nuke being stolen and what a tragedy that accidental oil rig fire was. Behind closed doors, power-havers decide that the world can never know the truth and lay it on thick with a message about the power of faith.
Money please, Hollywood.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 136d
Not in a way you'd expect, at least.
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 136d
Trump threatening genocide out loud is horrendous. All of the world leaders that barely shrug off the threat if at all are horrendous.
It's normalization of the absolute worst.
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 137d
Don't worry it's all part of God's plan /s
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 136d
“Imperfect vessel”
toad@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 136d
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 136d
That pope seems to be a woke pope?
conartistpanda@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 136d
Poke
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 136d
Your Holiness, please call a crusade on america and israel
BillyClark@piefed.social · 3 pts · 137d
In other news, Pope Leo releases an official press release stating that he is, in fact, Catholic.
58008@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 136d
If JD were to put a bullet in Trump's head, he'd be pardoned by the next president for saving the planet.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 136d
Wouldn't that be JD himself?
SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 135d
No, he was referring to Zach Braff’s character from Scrubs.
Jay101@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d
So what are he going to do about it?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 135d
Directly? Talk to "God," and thoughts and prayers for the people.
Indirectly? He just told around a billion and a half Catholics to resist/disobey illegal orders. That's not nothing.
Karl@literature.cafe · 4 pts · 135d
TwinTitans@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 137d
Sabakodgo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 136d
Whether he agrees or disagrees, it won't make a difference.
ductTapedWindow@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 136d
Yes .. but the pope is head of the largest pedophilia origination in modern times.
HK65@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 135d
I'd say that they've been outcompeted by Epstein's friend group
ductTapedWindow@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 135d
Ah yes, there can only be one pedophile group, the others are free to go about their business
HK65@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 134d
There can be one largest one. I've never said that others should be off the hook.