The context is, the person called Tyrena is an editor for a major intergalactic publisher. She's talking to an author about his sophomore effort, which has flopped. Transline is the publisher. And the TechnoCore, as you can guess from the image, is basically a collective of AIs (this is not expanded upon in the book, at least as far as I've gotten). And fatline is basically "interstellar broadband". I think the Expanse books/series uses similar terms, for communications that are sent far and wide, as opposed to privately (called "tight beam" or the like).
Amazing how much of this is relevant to 2026, 37 years after this was published.
I propose we train AI on films (somehow, ethically) and get its opinion on movies, and see if we agree or disagree. What does ChatGPT think of Spielberg's A.I.: Artificial Intelligence? What does it think of Terminator 2: Judgment Day? Bicentennial Man? Good Luck Have Fun Don't Die? Or even films that are not about AI (or robots) going too far? I wonder if we would, in fact, disagree with AI's "opinions" about film or art. I would sure as shit hope so.
(Edit: Added alt text to the image for the vision-impaired.)
22 Comments
SGforce@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 153d
Yo, the other day some news corp listed a fake poll conducted instead by a company that intentionally uses ai to guess how people feel.
These fucking insulated people are taking a machine's word over people's. We are so fucked
Okokimup@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 153d
That's not new. News sources have been polling men to find out how women feel for ages.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 152d
Oh, I guess it's fine then
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 152d
As long as it's a male AI then it should be fine.
ech@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 152d
That's still useful information to know how men feel, even if it's problematic. "Polling" algorithms is entirely fucking useless.
Morgoth_Bauglir@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 152d
This wasn't a fluke or an isolated incident. Qualtrics, one of the leading survey panel providers, is openly trying to normalize replacing actual survey responses and human voices with their own synthetic data.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 153d
If anyone here hasn't read Hyperion, do yourself a favor and start right now
sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 153d
redhorsejacket@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 152d
looks over at the copy of The Terror that I've just started
Uh-oh
Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 152d
The last one in that series gets a little weird with the age differences and time dilation stuff. I don't think it holds up in that respect.
artwork@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 153d
Just in case, about the work:
::: spoiler Paperback Cover (by Gary Ruddell)
:::
Related:
- Hyperion Cantos Series (Also known as Canti di Hyperion...)
- Wikipedia
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 153d
Between that description and the excerpt, this sounds wild! I've gotta pick this up.
48954246@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 153d
I wholy recommend it. Its an amazing book and one that has gueninely stuck with me over the years.
Definitely affected how I appreciate my kids
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 153d
It's a wild pilgrimage to the inevitable deaths of everyone involved. Stories brought from across the stars and yet all connected with all the answers laying somewhere in the swirling seas of time.
Insane visuals of various planets and the constructions and ruins of man.
sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 152d
sartalon@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 152d
In the book, "Fatline" came from the acronym FTL, for "Faster than Light", as it was a means of communication that was instant across any distance.
Man, you really need to keep reading the series, I wish I could forget it so I could he it again, for the first time.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 152d
Oh, nice. If that was said before I'm at (just finished the poet's tale), I missed it, but that totally tracks.
I hear bad things about some of the later books, but I have the first four (or is that all there is?) and I'm planning on reading at least the first one.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 153d
AI is trained on film reviews, which means it's just going to regurgitate stuff that critics and posters have said about films.
Chances are, AI will tend to produce opinions that people agree with, because it's just regurgitating our opinions back to us.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 153d
Everyone should read this series. It's great. Not just for its dunking on AI.
Hyperion and Endymion. (4 books total)
maegul@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 153d
I’ll add to all the recommendations to read Hyperion … just do it, seriously.
But I’ll also add that the sequel, while it splits people, contributes on the internet & AI sci fi front and mid probably worth a read if you’re enjoying those aspects of the first book. Generally, together, I think they’re great commentaries on modern tech, especially for books from the 80s.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 152d
When Dan Simmons passed, I heard a lot of good things about Hyperion. I didn't hear much about it before he passed, but what I heard after made me pick up the audiobook and listen.
maegul@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 152d
Glad to hear! And interested to know how you find it.
wolfrasin@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 152d
Read it if you must, but don't get suckerd into the pedo grooming plot of Raul & Anea in the sequels
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 150d
The AIs only bought one copy and then pirated it endlessly. Which makes them so much more based than the "AI" we have in real life.
Edit: Technically copyright infringement is committed countless times during AI training. But not by the AI out of its own volition. Because it has no such thing as volition.