This stock market is so unbelievably detached from reality it's not even funny anymore. It's all "meme stocks".
At least back in the day there was the thinnest guise of this stuff having some semblance of a connection to the ground-level economics of business. (You know, old fashioned stuff like employing people to make products and selling them for a profit.) My parents generation could at least be forgiven for believing that it was driven by serious people making logical decisions about money...
But today it's just so clearly based on vibes, algorithms, hype, and an unhealthy dose of total randomness that you might as well get into cryptocurrency or take your paycheck to the casino.
The whole thing stinks. It's like one giant ponzi scheme fueled by ketamine and hopium.
That's shifting the blame from the institutional morons with the real money to the piddly retail morons. Goldman Sachs is capable of this stupidity all by themselves.
But they IPO'd in 2021 around $400 and dropped to $100 in about four months and have been decaying since. From that perspective it's only a small bump.
Easier to sell too. Investors are dumb, they'd prefer a pretty lie than an uncomfortable truth. Give them the pretty lie and they'll throw money at you.
What do AI companies need? A place to house their datacenters. What does this failing shoe company likely have? Empty warehouses, and I bet they're located close to good power infrastructure with proper zoning to get datacenters installed before the locals can change the zoning to keep them out.
if we’re assuming that they can actually achieve what they’re saying (and not doing a pump and dump) the market would have already shifted infrastructure-wise and the cost to setup would have increased.
We’d be presuming that Allbirds owns their warehousing space. For all I know they could be drop-shipping from third-party warehousing.
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mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 51 pts · 121d
This stock market is so unbelievably detached from reality it's not even funny anymore. It's all "meme stocks".
At least back in the day there was the thinnest guise of this stuff having some semblance of a connection to the ground-level economics of business. (You know, old fashioned stuff like employing people to make products and selling them for a profit.) My parents generation could at least be forgiven for believing that it was driven by serious people making logical decisions about money...
But today it's just so clearly based on vibes, algorithms, hype, and an unhealthy dose of total randomness that you might as well get into cryptocurrency or take your paycheck to the casino.
The whole thing stinks. It's like one giant ponzi scheme fueled by ketamine and hopium.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 121d
Always has been. Nowadays it's just visible to everyone.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 121d
Some things have changed, it used to be fueled by cocaine and hopium.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 120d
It still is, but it used to be too.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 121d
Back in what day? 25 years ago this is exactly what happened with the dotcom bubble and it was just as silly.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 6 pts · 121d
I'm gonna disagree with you. I think it's only gotten dumber with things like Robinhood and communities like wallstreetbets.
oyo@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 120d
That's shifting the blame from the institutional morons with the real money to the piddly retail morons. Goldman Sachs is capable of this stupidity all by themselves.
clif@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 120d
No, silly, 25 years ago was nineteen seventy... Wait.
26 years later and my brain still default counts back from 2000. Stupid brain.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 40 pts · 121d
This world is to stupid for me
athatet@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 121d
Didn’t South Park literally just do this?
It’s weed but with ai.
It’s shoes but with ai.
What that fuck is this clown world I am living in?
AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 121d
It doesn’t take much to boost the price of a stock by 400% if the stock is already practically worthless.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 121d
$3 to $17. That's a reasonably big jump.
But they IPO'd in 2021 around $400 and dropped to $100 in about four months and have been decaying since. From that perspective it's only a small bump.
dogslayeggs@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 121d
It's insane they were valued that high to begin with.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 121d
It's not the per-share, it's the market cap.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 14 pts · 121d
Touché, but I counter with much being converting a shoe company to a consumer based AI sales company.
As in: well that's a bit much.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 121d
I guess bullshit is easier to make than shoes.
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 120d
Easier to sell too. Investors are dumb, they'd prefer a pretty lie than an uncomfortable truth. Give them the pretty lie and they'll throw money at you.
GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 121d
It converted to a company that sells buzzwords to investors as far as I can tell.
YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 121d
Long Island Ice tea Company changed their name to Long Island Blockchain a few years ago, similar results.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/21/long-island-iced-tea-micro-cap-adds-blockchain-to-name-and-stock-soars.html
Deadeyegai@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 121d
A shoe company going into AI? What could go wrong?
db2@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 121d
The other shoe could drop.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 120d
They should tread carefully and not focus solely on AI.
TrickedPrivacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 120d
MangoCats@feddit.it · 3 pts · 121d
What do AI companies need? A place to house their datacenters. What does this failing shoe company likely have? Empty warehouses, and I bet they're located close to good power infrastructure with proper zoning to get datacenters installed before the locals can change the zoning to keep them out.
sealhaslupus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 121d
if we’re assuming that they can actually achieve what they’re saying (and not doing a pump and dump) the market would have already shifted infrastructure-wise and the cost to setup would have increased.
We’d be presuming that Allbirds owns their warehousing space. For all I know they could be drop-shipping from third-party warehousing.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 121d
The retail investor market is full of ASSumptions.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 11 pts · 121d
This is private equity converting a warehouse into a data center though right?
Why does this feel like the new gig economy scam for companies?
Need extra cash? Make some easily by renting out server space!
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 121d
I liked those shoes. Too bad.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 4 pts · 121d
I bet you can find them for cheap soon.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 120d
Their CEO, just before the press conference:
man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 120d
Every time I read this headline, the stock has gone up another 100%.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 120d
It was $3 to $13 so... I mean easy to make huge percentage swings when practically spare change for the wealthy.