By Bertel King - Published Apr 22, 2026
From the moment GNOME 3 launched back in 2011, I felt like it was perfect for a touchscreen, and I’m happy to say that it absolutely is. I’d even go so far as to say that the GNOME interface is a better way to navigate a touchscreen than that of Android or iOS. I’ve said before that I would love to see an official GNOME-only OS, and this experience has only strengthened that desire.
Every aspect of GNOME is easy to tap with a finger. Opening the app drawer and swiping between workspaces feels completely natural with three-finger gestures. Windows are easy to drag around, maximize, or pin to the side. The virtual keyboard that pops up when I tap an input field is the only visual distinction from desktop GNOME. (...)
32 Comments
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 128d
This is an issue I run into running a headless Linux computer as well. On macOS I’m never running headless, so never ran into this issue. But needing to enter a password before the OS boots is a decision that makes Linux kind of awkward to use disk encryption with.
And I’m almost certainly doing it wrong, so would appreciate being nudged in the right direction.
I’ve seen a post about storing the encryption keys in TPM, but others say then you can lose your keys if the mobo dies. I’ve heard you can use ssh keys, but I’m not sure how — and here that would require a second device to unlock your tablet.
macOS uses a read only OS partition to boot and then encrypts your user data partition, can I do that with Linux?
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden · 18 pts · 128d
Yes, the dual partition approach is what I usually do with LUKS
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 128d
Okay, on the weekend I’ll see if that can work with NixOS (so far my favourite distro).
kork349d@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 128d
You can write a luks key to a usb stick and use that to automatically decrypt at boot. https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Full_Disk_Encryption#Unattended_Boot_via_USB
ghen@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 128d
What's the general concept for setting up a dual partition for this purpose? I'm thinking of making a Linux server myself pretty soon.
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden · 4 pts · 128d
It's been a while, but I think I used this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#LUKS_on_a_partition
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 123d
Might want to try this instead: https://lemmy.world/comment/23441076
INeedMana@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 128d
If you want the OS to boot before it decrypts your drive, why encrypt it in the first place? Honest question, not an attack. For OS to boot without any password it needs to be booting from unencrypted drive. So the attacker could just put their keyloggers on that drive
Yes. Just encrypt /home partition only
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 128d
I’ve run into a few reasons:
Generally though I think OS encryption isn’t that important (verification is) vs protecting user data.
INeedMana@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 127d
I don't think I've heard about some boot-time checksum verification of root partition. Doesn't mean it does not exist, just that I can't help here
My point is: if OS is not encrypted, it can be modified. And that verification idea, if is not stored under some encryption, could also be changed. Which means that by the time you put in your password to decrypt your home, you might be already running system that will nullify the protection. Encrypting only your data will only protect you in scenarios when someone snatches your device turned off
sonofearth@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 128d
INeedMana@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 127d
Hence my point about why bother at all. Without full encryption one gets leaks. With full encryption some kind of secret is required. Either password (hence that need of keyboard in earlier comment) or a key, etc
In order to not need a secret during boot, critical parts have to be exposed
Theoretically one could also put logs and cache on encrypted volumes. Maybe that could be some solution. I have in the past had
/var/logson separate partition, so it didn't make/run out of space. Linux had no issue with that. But that still leaves kernel and OS exposedThe comment I responded to mentioned:
I don't think you are talking about the same setup and vectors. Their point was to not have fully encrypted drive, so it boots without a prompt
sonofearth@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
INeedMana@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 126d
Well, TIL
When Windows users had to switch versions because of TPM I was not paying attention, I run Linux everywhere. Apparently there can be some use of TPM
But then, without a separate stage of encryption (like encrypting
/homeadditionally), the system will just boot up with the data available. It can still be messed withAmaterasu@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 128d
TPM2 + Secure Boot via
systemd-cryptenrollis the closest to the "just works" FileVault/Android experience. Keep a recovery passphrase in your password manager. You don't lose your data if the motherboard dies, you just use the recovery key.I use this on my daily drive laptop. Only real hiccup is that I still keep the dual boot because fwupd does not cover my laptop BIOS firmware updates but in a Linux tablet this a no issue.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
Why not use LUKS? Hibernate to partition (even LVM) works, all native, and full disk support.
Amaterasu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
LUKS isn’t the alternative here, it’s the baseline. The question is how to unlock LUKS without manual passphrase entry at boot.
Using TPM2 + Secure Boot (e.g. via systemd-cryptenroll) binds the LUKS key to platform integrity, so it auto-unlocks when the system hasn’t been tampered with. You still keep a recovery passphrase, so you’re not locked out if hardware changes or fails.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
But then anyone can just walk up to the machine and turn it on and have it be decrypted. Am I missing something?
Amaterasu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
TPM auto-unlock still relies on measured boot integrity (Secure Boot/PCRs), so it protects against offline theft and tampering when the machine is off or storage is removed.
But if an attacker has repeated physical access during boot, the protection depends on whether you’ve added extra factors like a TPM PIN or pre-boot passphrase. Login prompts don’t re-protect the disk once it’s decrypted.
In practice, for my use case (mostly shutdown or battery-dead scenarios), this is an acceptable trade-off for convenience. If your threat model includes targeted physical access during boot, then keeping a pre-boot secret is still the safer choice.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
Ahh so the pin or passphrase would basically give the same protection. Thanks.
sonofearth@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 128d
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
I'm about to make you happy. The below script puts SSH into initramfs, so you can SSH in to a prompt and type your LUKS password at boot. No part of the system is accessible over this SSH connection, just the prompt. You also still get the prompt locally on screen.
@tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden for if this is easier than what you are doing.
Zak@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 128d
I've been running Gnome on a Surface for a while. It's an outstanding tablet UI except for its onscreen keyboard. The keyboard is terrible. I could write a full-length article about how terrible the keyboard is, but here are a few quick complaints:
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 127d
Well then, it couldn't be that bad.
Zak@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 127d
I suppose I should clarify that I could write a full-length article about it on something else.
science4life@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 127d
melfie@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 127d
I see what you did there. 😆
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 17 pts · 128d
Wut. Why would you want some shitty bespoke solution? That's vendor lock-in, broken drivers, and irreparable.
Meanwhile the rest of us are demanding off-the-shelf parts
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 128d
I've been using Fedora GNOME on a Lenovo Ideapad Duet 3i for awhile. It's one of those Surface-alikes, it's electrically an x86 laptop with a wacom touch screen and the keyboard is on a floppy rubber flap hinge that can magnetically detach to give you a tablet.
Gnome itself is better than un-fucking-usable. It doesn't really make any intuitive sense, because Gnome is developed by Species 8472. There's a gesture to open the onscreen keyboard. Because Gnome is designed primarily for use with the keyboard, they figure you need constant access to it even if there's no text field available on the screen. Because you're definitely pressing Ctrl+Alt+Meta+Alt-Gr+Shift+Super+T to launch the web browser or whatever makes sense in Fluidic Space on a touch keyboard. It's a similar gesture to the one for opening the app drawer.
All onscreen keyboards available in Linux are quarter-baked. They barely function to enter text. They're so poorly featured they're more of a burden than waiting until you're back at your desk.
There are no apps in the Linux ecosystem designed for tablet use. Nothing is touch-screen friendly and it never will be. Even the wacom tablet...
So here's another issue, the little laptop I have has a wacom tablet feature so it's stylus compatible. Badly. Part of the issue is it's a weird, low-volume computer. Part of the issue is it's a 1080x1920 resolution display. Yeah, it's native portrait mode. Everything in Linux seems to assume a native landscape mode. So you can feel the little fuckist having an argument with itself. "You mean 1920x1080." "No, I mean 1080x1920." So you'll get bizarre things like the touch screen or digitizer being rotated 90 degrees from what the display is showing. Getting second or third buttons on a stylus working is a lol no, pressure sensitivity comes and goes...we're in the land of "we made whatever the fuck we wanted to this week and we'll give Microsoft a special shim to make it work in Windows." and Linux never gets the equivalent of that shim, so it'll never work right.
Back to the apps, everything is tiny and assumes you have a three button mouse and full QWERTY keyboard. Reading a PDF document sucks on a Fedora Gnome tablet. Zooming in and out and scrolling around just...sucks. Because it's not a touch screen app reading touch inputs, it's a desktop app reading mouse inputs that were translated from touch inputs by a zoomer freshman equipped with "Jeff Foxworthy's touch interface to mouse interface phrasebook v0.0.6".
paper_moon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 127d
Well, whatever this.. Is.. I'll still offer maybe try gnome-mobile if you can, and see if thats any better on the touch interface. Also, check out flatpaks for apps, as there's a decent amount of them that support responsive design, so they at least scale in tablets and phones.
There's also a gnome extension that can manually rotate the screen instead of relying on the sensors.
I've been messing around with postmarketOS and gnome-mobile, flatpak apps, and waydroid for android apps, are the 3 things that make it sorts usable. Now if only we could get VoLTE, working cameras, and bluetooth passthrough to waydroid container, that would make me a very happy linux fan.
wjrii@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 128d
I managed to get Debian with XFCE running permanently on a 6 year old Lenovo ChromeTab. It mostly works, but "touchscreen as a mouse" is clunky and the onscreen keyboard I use, "Onboard," is utilitarian at best. As a low-distraction writing device paired with a mechanical keyboard and FocusWriter, it's pretty cool. If anything, it's a bit too decent a setup for that purpose, as the browser is usable and I left Wifi working.
Now to actually start using it... 🤣
paper_moon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 128d
I've been messing around with gnome-mobile on postmarketos and I like that quite a bit. I'm not sure how it scales and works with tablets as I was using it on a phone, but if you're looking for an android like interface experience (no touchscreen as a mouse), gnome-mobile was nice.
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Category:Interface
potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space · 7 pts · 128d
On decryption, there's unl0kr, as this describes
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 127d
I have an HP Spectre x360 running KDE Plasma w/Wayland on LMDE7. Its fine in tablet mode. Scrolling works as expected and it has a virtual keyboard as well.
dylanmorgan@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 128d
It would be great if sites didn’t say I have adblock when I don’t.
Ascend910@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 127d
jing os was such a missed opportunity for linux tablet i am still sad about it