The bright side, it also happens the other way around. I've seen video of a firetruck driving through a cop car because they wouldn't move out of the way during an emergency. And the police dept couldn't do a damn thing about it. Karma in little pieces here and there.
in most areas - at a fire like that we outrank them. i’ve yelled at a few who park like shitheads, and tell them they’re fucked because now i have 5” hose charged laying over the ground and they couldn’t drive their car away if they wanted to. They embarrass easy with their weak egos.
Because EMS services fuck themselves. We don't need any outside help. Bunch of sleazy hoes. You would be amazed at how often the stretchers get used between calls. I once slept for a good 8 hours on one coming back from a long distance.
I worked in a field related to Fire/LE for awhile and there was some movement between depts. Even more common were family connections though. Everyones cousin/brother/grandpa was also a cop/firefighter.
You couldn't talk shit about anyone without checking their last name.
I’m my department’s open anarchist / communist. I get the usual flak but I get a lot of people asking actual questions especially because I openly consider firefighting a part of mutual aid. Especially volunteers. The right wing trump folks, I push back on and have turned more than one around. They’re stupid, so it’s easy to talk circles around them.
In mine, I'm amazed at the amount of people who openly agree with me when I claim my left-wing status and start ranting about not having a left wing party that matters, who openly clamor for a union, who happily agree about the incredibly wealthy bosses taking in millions while some of our coworkers live in cars... and then they start spouting the fox news talking points a few minutes later. Especially with immigration/national security/"think of the children!" matters, it seems like we are culturally infected with maga rot even in otherwise 'normal' or even 'leftist' folks.
i like using what i have no idea if it’s “real” rhetoric but some form of “so there’s a line that’s ok with you?”
the US blows up a girls school. No problem? But Russia blows up a house and its bad? So what’s the line? 10 civilians? 1000?
if you toss in a dig that indicates they’d just throw up dip spit into their scba if we ever had to respond to a blown up girls school anyway… they usually shut up. no offense if you dip. (stop)
Imagine if a pump truck, ladder truck, fire Marshal, and 5 vollenteers all showed up to your burning house, and then did nothing, allowing the fire to spread to surrounding structures and landscape.
You sue the fire department, and the judge said that the fire department has no requirement to actually put a structure fire out even if they are present and able.
The fire department proceeds to harass you by smashing your car windows or pushing your car with one of the engines.
meanwhile 98% of firefighters drive the equivalent of a Dodge Ram without need
sure they'll put themselves in danger... in certain conditions, and for money. ask them to respect cyclists or drive a smaller vehicle so they don't run over kids, and nope that's too much to ask, they have golf clubs to fit in there
I am a firefighter and you're not wrong. The shit I hear some of these assholes say is sickening.
On the other hand the nature of the job doesn't give near as much of an avenue to act on fucked up beliefs. The culture won't tolerate that behavior on scene either. There's also a hell of a lot more accountability: you will be fired, possibly criminally charged, sued, and/or ostracized.
I.e. even if a firefighter is a piece of shit they need to at least act like a decent human being when interacting with the public.
I wonder how long that'll last. Also, if it stays around, I wonder if there's something society can learn from that structure and apply to other parts of society. I wonder if there's any way to improve it. And I wonder why it's as you say, in the first place.
59 Comments
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 88 pts · 119d
Didn't a cop arrest a firefighter because he wouldn't move his truck while trying to save someone's life?
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 86 pts · 119d
And ICE detained that group of firefighters tackling a burning wildfire a month or two ago.
Pigs can't accept being upstaged
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 119d
Tackling it?
Throwing yourself bodily at flames doesn't sound like a very efficient method of fire extinguishing IMO 🤔
couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 119d
That's why they have the asbestos suits
fartographer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 118d
It is if you use a headlock
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 118d
Someone understands the fire triangle!
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 118d
Fighting a category 3 wild fire is one of the rare times both Rabbit Punches and Full Nelsons are legally sanctioned.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d
I legitimately doubled over laughing
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 119d
That happens way more often than we're told. The only thing rare about it is detention going all the way to formal charges.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 31 pts · 119d
The bright side, it also happens the other way around. I've seen video of a firetruck driving through a cop car because they wouldn't move out of the way during an emergency. And the police dept couldn't do a damn thing about it. Karma in little pieces here and there.
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 119d
The rarer cousin of FUCKYOUIMABUS.
flandish@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 119d
in most areas - at a fire like that we outrank them. i’ve yelled at a few who park like shitheads, and tell them they’re fucked because now i have 5” hose charged laying over the ground and they couldn’t drive their car away if they wanted to. They embarrass easy with their weak egos.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 119d
I’ve seen firefights tell off cops who are in the way. Including one parked in front of a hydrant, a superior hot real upset at that one.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 117d
oh yea, how bout this, they murdered a mentally ill people because they dint want to "Deal with the paperwork".
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 63 pts · 119d
Not all firefighters are based, but all cops are bastards.
Stern@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 118d
NWA never made "Fuck the Fire Department"
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 118d
Public Enemy had '911 Is A Joke', it's more about EMTs not rushing to 'bad' neighborhoods, though.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 118d
Ever seen an undercover firefighter? An unmarked fire truck? No? Tells you their priorities.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 119d
Love this
SwifferWetjet@thelemmy.club · 41 pts · 119d
Ain't a song made out there called "Fuck The Fire Department."
Or "Fuck the EMS" either while we're at it.
I wonder why?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 119d
you're probably wrong, lots of people want to fuck firmen
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 119d
Oh yes there is...
https://youtu.be/7JkrJUAg8aI
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 118d
Because EMS services fuck themselves. We don't need any outside help. Bunch of sleazy hoes. You would be amazed at how often the stretchers get used between calls. I once slept for a good 8 hours on one coming back from a long distance.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 119d
I've met a lot of firefighters who act like cops. One of them lived in my apartment building and his girlfriend routinely had a black eye.
Ive also met good ones. But more often, theyre entitled dickheads just like the cops.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 119d
I worked in a field related to Fire/LE for awhile and there was some movement between depts. Even more common were family connections though. Everyones cousin/brother/grandpa was also a cop/firefighter.
You couldn't talk shit about anyone without checking their last name.
BassStankFace@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 119d
flandish@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 119d
I’m my department’s open anarchist / communist. I get the usual flak but I get a lot of people asking actual questions especially because I openly consider firefighting a part of mutual aid. Especially volunteers. The right wing trump folks, I push back on and have turned more than one around. They’re stupid, so it’s easy to talk circles around them.
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 6 pts · 118d
In mine, I'm amazed at the amount of people who openly agree with me when I claim my left-wing status and start ranting about not having a left wing party that matters, who openly clamor for a union, who happily agree about the incredibly wealthy bosses taking in millions while some of our coworkers live in cars... and then they start spouting the fox news talking points a few minutes later. Especially with immigration/national security/"think of the children!" matters, it seems like we are culturally infected with maga rot even in otherwise 'normal' or even 'leftist' folks.
flandish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
i like using what i have no idea if it’s “real” rhetoric but some form of “so there’s a line that’s ok with you?”
the US blows up a girls school. No problem? But Russia blows up a house and its bad? So what’s the line? 10 civilians? 1000?
if you toss in a dig that indicates they’d just throw up dip spit into their scba if we ever had to respond to a blown up girls school anyway… they usually shut up. no offense if you dip. (stop)
moustachio@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
How does their political ideology change the services they provide? They’re not the thugs the cops are by any stretch.
They still put out fires, and save lives.
BassStankFace@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 118d
moustachio@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 118d
The red vs blue brain rot is strong with you
BassStankFace@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 118d
moustachio@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 118d
The ruling class is so proud of your committed efforts to their divide and conquer of the working class. Bravo!
oatscoop@midwest.social · 0 pts · 118d
I'm on the job and they're not wrong. Sounds like their department was especially shitty, but I've seen a lot of the same.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 118d
Is it sort of a, 'Two alarm over on Martin Luther King Drive? We'll finish dinner and mosey over...' kind of thing?
oatscoop@midwest.social · 1 pts · 118d
No, everyone loves a "good" fire.
BassStankFace@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 118d
Inucune@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 118d
Imagine if a pump truck, ladder truck, fire Marshal, and 5 vollenteers all showed up to your burning house, and then did nothing, allowing the fire to spread to surrounding structures and landscape. You sue the fire department, and the judge said that the fire department has no requirement to actually put a structure fire out even if they are present and able.
The fire department proceeds to harass you by smashing your car windows or pushing your car with one of the engines.
This post isn't about a shitty fire department.
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 118d
The cop may enter the burning building just to shoot the dog.
scutiger@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 118d
Why would he do that when he can just wait for the firefighter to pull the dog out of the burning building before shooting it?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 117d
... before shooting the dog and the firefighter...
Soapbox@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 118d
Kristi Noem has entered the burning building.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d
flandish@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 119d
Am firefighter. Can confirm. Once saved a woman and handed her off to a cop who happened to be at the doorstep and .. he got a medal. 😂
Doggos need help getting out. Cats though? They usually just find a way.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 118d
The cat started the fire.
flandish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
i have a cat. i believe it to be possible.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 118d
There’s actually a lot of MAGA in your typical fire department :/
scutiger@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d
You're not wrong, but I give a bit of leeway to people who are willing to put themselves in danger to help others. Not too much though.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 118d
meanwhile 98% of firefighters drive the equivalent of a Dodge Ram without need
sure they'll put themselves in danger... in certain conditions, and for money. ask them to respect cyclists or drive a smaller vehicle so they don't run over kids, and nope that's too much to ask, they have golf clubs to fit in there
scutiger@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d
Roughly two thirds of all firefighters are volunteers. They're not paid to do the job.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 118d
volunteer firefighters around here are paid
oatscoop@midwest.social · 8 pts · 118d
I am a firefighter and you're not wrong. The shit I hear some of these assholes say is sickening.
On the other hand the nature of the job doesn't give near as much of an avenue to act on fucked up beliefs. The culture won't tolerate that behavior on scene either. There's also a hell of a lot more accountability: you will be fired, possibly criminally charged, sued, and/or ostracized.
I.e. even if a firefighter is a piece of shit they need to at least act like a decent human being when interacting with the public.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 118d
I wonder how long that'll last. Also, if it stays around, I wonder if there's something society can learn from that structure and apply to other parts of society. I wonder if there's any way to improve it. And I wonder why it's as you say, in the first place.
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d
Hopefully before maga picks up a history book and learns about the private fire services that used to exist before.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 14 pts · 118d
an acorn falls
SHOTS FIRED
empties clip on a nearby pedesterian, reloads and empties that at the pedeterian's dog
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 119d
Nobody ever wrote a song called "Fuck the Fire Department"
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 119d
there are probably a few, but likely more literal.
Cort@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 119d
Especially for the fire departments that put out calendars
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
Posthumous Left Eye single imo
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 119d
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/5255298.stm
This is the worst thing a fireman ever did.
texture@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 119d
cops kill dogs i hear
Starduster75@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d
Anyone remember Adam Toledo?