Also likely, that historically the victors rewrote history to make their enemies barbaric to justify their war. so maybe Orc civilisations wasn't as backwards and evil as we we're led to belive.
In the extended versions after the battle for Helms Deep, Gimli says a line where he references the central nervous system; something they surely would not know about in a fantasy setting!
Honestly in cases like these, i just like to think that english doesnt exist at all in canon and instead the common language has been translated to english for us, including common phrases and euphemisms being altered to suit to our current vernacular.
"We are built as gene machines and cultured as meme machines, but we have the power to turn against our creators. We, alone on earth, can rebel against the tyranny of the selfish replicators."
I bought a bunch of model kits years ago, I enjoy building and painting, but never had the time. Now I have the time, but it turns out I can’t see the small parts, and I shake too much to paint. Whatever you love doing, do it now if you can.
👓 Teeeechnically, it was. Richard Dawkins coined the term in 1976. I did think it came into use as "internet in-joke" in the mid 2000s but Wikipedia says Mike Goodwin used it in 1993 already. Peter Jackson wouldn't have known it like that when they were writing, I think it's safe to assume.
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thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de · 74 pts · 86d
Well, in-universe the story is written by Frodo, and I bet Hobbits would 100% know about menus
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 86d
Also likely, that historically the victors rewrote history to make their enemies barbaric to justify their war. so maybe Orc civilisations wasn't as backwards and evil as we we're led to belive.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 86d
I believe there was a fanfic that described saurons motivations and humanity, where the heroes from the book were the evildoers.
persona_non_gravitas@piefed.social · 18 pts · 85d
The Last Ringbearer. Exactly that, both sides are very different from how they are in the "history written by the winners" Lord of the Rings.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 85d
That's the one! Thanks for linking it!
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 85d
Was it by Jeff Bezos?
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
Ha! No way better than that shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 18 pts · 86d
And he only heard the embellished version from Merry and Pippin who may not be the most reliant narrators.
stray@pawb.social · 6 pts · 85d
Also none of the story is actually in English; what we read is a localization.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 86d
A menu could easily just mean a list of available provisions, so I don't think it's out of place at all.
TheSlad@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 86d
In the extended versions after the battle for Helms Deep, Gimli says a line where he references the central nervous system; something they surely would not know about in a fantasy setting!
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 85d
And to think I worried about pre-firearms archers yelling “fire!” and the potatoes.
TheSlad@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 85d
Honestly in cases like these, i just like to think that english doesnt exist at all in canon and instead the common language has been translated to english for us, including common phrases and euphemisms being altered to suit to our current vernacular.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 85d
That's more or less what Tolkien said.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 86d
That's the thing, they've been around for like 8k years since Durin I, plenty of time to dissect orc and study their insides.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 85d
In the extended extended edition, Boromir recites the entirety of John Galt's speech.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 85d
nobody in The Fountainhead knows who John Galt is either tbf
Skipcast@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 86d
No way that's something he said surely. The word "meme" wasn't even a thing back then
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 86d
-Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene, 1976
specimen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 86d
How did the same guy that said this got deluded into thinking AI is conscious
johsny@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 86d
He got like 60 years older. Believe me, it is going to happen to you too.
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 86d
That's one of my fears, is that by the time I am old enough to retire, I'll be too old to enjoy my steam games...
johsny@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 85d
I bought a bunch of model kits years ago, I enjoy building and painting, but never had the time. Now I have the time, but it turns out I can’t see the small parts, and I shake too much to paint. Whatever you love doing, do it now if you can.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 86d
Meme in it's modern usage wasn't.
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 86d
That's where the concept comes from. The documentary Metal Gear Solid 2 explains it better than I can.
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Also, you are correct, this image was a joke.
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 16 pts · 86d
👓 Teeeechnically, it was. Richard Dawkins coined the term in 1976. I did think it came into use as "internet in-joke" in the mid 2000s but Wikipedia says Mike Goodwin used it in 1993 already. Peter Jackson wouldn't have known it like that when they were writing, I think it's safe to assume.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 86d
But it's on the internet. It must be true.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 86d
technically wrong but realistically correct.
iamericandre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
Swing and a miss