Fiber-optic drones, the weapon Hezbollah has adopted to attack Israel: ‘Using them is easier than playing a video game’
https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-05-12/fiber-optic-drones-the-weapon-hezbollah-has-adopted-to-attack-israel-using-them-is-easier-than-playing-a-video-game.html
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EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 115 pts · 104d
The issue with the headline is it implies the Lebanese are the aggressors, when Israel is using missiles to demolish infrastructure and killing indiscriminately so that they can occupy Lebanon and steal territory.
Also mention them as Pro-Iranian. They’re fighting against the destruction and occupation of Lebanon (where they’re from).
tacoplease@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 103d
Yup, pro-Iran is a mislabel when they're obviously pro-Lebanon and anti-Israel first and foremost.
Capable_Coping@piefed.social · 0 pts · 103d
is it possible to unreact emojis on this platform? cause I did not intend to click that
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -44 pts · 104d
no, it doesn't. It implies that Hezbollah are aggressors, which they are, just as much as Israel.
The Lebanese are the victims of both.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 104d
Sorry, but clearly the people defending their country are the defenders. I’m not a fan of propaganda or doublespeak.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -30 pts · 104d
Yes, the Lebanese army.
The IDF and Hezbollah are the aggressors.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 104d
The IOF have always been the aggressors. Hezbollah only exists because of the IOF invasions, ethnic cleansings, and settler colonialism of Lebanon.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -12 pts · 103d
So the fact that an occupying terrorist group was spawned by an occupying terrorist group excuses their occupation and terrorism?
They could have been fighting Israeli aggression, terrorism, and occupation without becoming occupiers and terrorists themselves. But they didn't.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 103d
Dude, we get it. You have no clue what you're talking about. There's some guides on hasbara I'm sure you can find, you could use the help.
Again, Hezbollah only exists because of massacres like Sabra and Shatila, along with the other massacres utilizing the Dahiya doctrine during the 6 Israeli invasions
::: spoiler 1982
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::: spoiler Israeli Withdrawal
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::: spoiler 2006
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::: spoiler 2007 - 2022
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/17/beyond-hezbollah-the-history-of-tensions-between-lebanon-and-israel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict
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::: spoiler 2023-2025
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/hezbollah-and-israel-a-timeline-of-conflict
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2024/4/15/mapping-israel-lebanon-cross-border-attacks :::
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -10 pts · 103d
Can you quote the part where I disputed the fact that Hezbollah exists because of Israeli aggression, occupation, and terrorism?
I fully acknowledge and agree with that.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 103d
Most countries in the world do not design Hizbollah as a terrorist group, only israel's western countries puppet does.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 103d
Quick question dumbass.
Where is the fighting taking place
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 103d
Lol when did the lebanese ever defended a single lebanese? If the lebanese army was strong and was nit blocked from attacking Israel by France and the usa demands, hizbollah would have not existed.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 103d
Without hizbollah south lebanon if not all lebanon would have been colonized . I don't know how you shamelessly say Israel and Hizbollah are equally evil.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -13 pts · 103d
I said both are aggressors, not both are equally evil.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 103d
The context of the post is israel vs hizbollah. It that context the only agressor is Israel.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -15 pts · 103d
that's complete bullshit.
If you take the timeline starting in 2026, then either Israel and the US are the aggressors and the scope is bigger than just Israel and Hezbollah, or you insist on limiting it to only Israel and Hezbollah but Hezbollah are the aggressors.
If you start from 2023, then again, if you only look at Israel and Hezbollah, then Hezbollah are the aggressors.
If you expand the timeline beyond that you really cannot limit the scope to just those two belligerents, because all the regional conflicts are way too interwoven.
Trying to look for simplistic good vs bad framing might be appealing but is ultimately dishonest.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 103d
Even in 2023 Israel was the aggressor. In response to Israel geocoding Palestinians Hezbollah launched rockets on occupied land, Israel went and targeted civilians infrastructures and Lebanese civilians . Israel is the colonial genocidal power , Hezbollah is the resistance group no amount of bullshit from your side is going to change that.
1982 Israel occupied Lebanon, Israel is the aggressor, 2006 Israel had Lebanese is jail, Israel is the aggressor, post 2026 Israel continued bombing Lebanese in breach of the resolution 1701 , Israel was the aggressor, 2026 Israel continued bombing Lebanon despite a cease fire, again Israel the aggressor.
Again the context in this post is Hezbollah vs Israel . Israel is the colonial genocidal power , Hezbollah is the resistance group.
You are trying to frame the debate as both are aggressors to reject Hezbollah right to resistance which would allow Israel to occupy under pretext of security, then start putting settlers and finally after few years declare sovereignty on those land. My stand is more nuanced with facts. I did acknowledge that Hezbollah did atrocities but in the context of the war still in the context of the post Israel is the only aggressor.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -8 pts · 103d
Dude, you said Israel is the aggressor when only looking at Israel and Hezbollah and then include Palestine.
So are we looking at only Israel and Hezbollah, or are we looking at Israel, Hezbollah, and other factions? And if so, why are we only including the factions that help your case, instead of all factions involved?
You are treating this as a sports match, it's fucking not.
tacoplease@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 103d
Wut? Israel has been attacking Lebanon for decades because of their "greater" Israel jerk-off fantasies.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 103d
literally the next fucking paragraph in my comment.
xxam925@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 102d
Take this idf astroturfing back to Reddit.
Israel is the greatest evil on this planet and it isn’t close. No bridge is too far in eliminating them.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 102d
Yeah, it's not enough to call Israel genocidal fascists, have to agree with the hive mind or its IDF astroturfing.
It's funny, I came here in part because the zionist hive mind of Reddit was disgusting.
And all I'm finding here is a tankie hive mind.
Extremists on both sides, nuance not allowed.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 103d
You've already been linked sources that debunk what your saying. Try reading up before talking out of your ass
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 103d
The sources show that Israel is an aggressor, which I never disputed.
xxam925@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 102d
lol.
When and why was hezbollah founded?
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 102d
Yeah, being founded to fight off a genocidal occupation absolves one of all wrong. I've already been made aware of that.
yesman@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 104d
This is only coherent with the "history started on Oct 7" mentality. Hezbollah are terrorists, so is the IDF. Trying to decide who's in the moral right is madness, but who started it isn't complicated or ambiguous.
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · -14 pts · 104d
Asking who started it is the wrong question to ask. And the answer changes constantly depending on when you ask it.
Both should equally fuck off.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 104d
We could be starting the development of interstellar travel to Alpha Centauri .... but instead we're developing murder bots to get land for rich people and do it all in the name of sky gods written about in books by semi literate superstitious ancestors that lived in the desert 3000 years ago.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 20 pts · 103d
🤔
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 103d
O.O
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
That drone looks like it's got cringe face. Like "sorry, I know you wanted to kill, but uhhhh, this is gonna be awkward..."
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 103d
Can't make this shit up
yesman@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 104d
Drone warfare is becoming racialized just like terrorism in the media and for the same reason; it's accessible to oppressed people.
Notice how noble it is when a Ukrainian defends his home with murder bots. Let an Arab do the same thing and it's diabolical somehow.
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 103d
It is amazing and heroic how the people of Hezbollah are defending themselves from these evil empires that are armed to the teeth with less resources and technology, their ingenuity and sacrifice is admirable.
lmdnw@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 104d
Anything that helps kill more IDF oppressors is a good thing.
Greyghoster@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 103d
It’s interesting that Hezbollah and the IDF have swapped roles with Hez now the beleaguered defender against the rabid IDF similar to the way Iran seems to have the moral upper hand against the US aggressor. They both were on the nose about how rabid they were until a more rabid duo of Netanyahu and Trump kicked the door open and took centre stage.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 104d
BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 103d
Used to race fpv drones, flying a drone (especially ones weighed down) with the precision to hit a moving person takes skill and is not easy, definitely not something you are doing without training or practice.
Now the ones that fly above with all the built in stabilization that drop the tiny ordnance, that's easy.
But good for them defending themselves with the means they have against this injustice.
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 103d
If you do what you love, you never work a day in your life
Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 103d
Don't love your job, job your love.
venusaur@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 103d
ozymandias117@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 103d
While useful, you do have to be very close to the target to use this
Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org · 1 pts · 103d
Really depends on the drone honestly
ozymandias117@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 103d
They're specifically talking about drones that are fly-by-wire
I don't think anyone has invented a fiber optic cable with enough strength to stay attached for miles
Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org · 4 pts · 103d
The thing is, they have and they can, don't know what they are working with in Lebanon though.
First article i found, don't know the outlet: https://gagadget.com/en/662470-ukraine-tests-fibre-optic-fpv-drones-with-a-range-of-40-km/
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 103d
Seeing drone footage from Ukraine war: "Ugh, I don't want to see this snuff shit. What a senseless tragedy"
Seeing Hezbollah drone footage: "Yes... Yes! DIE! DIE MOTHERFUCKER!!!"
tacoplease@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d
You can enjoy both
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 103d
Nah, the former is just ghoulish. The latter represents both hope and divine retribution
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 103d
I do but I can only fap to one.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 103d
You do you pal.