Louis Rossmann taunts Bambu Lab by hosting banned 3D Printer firmware fork, dares $1 billion company to sue him — more creators pledge support and boycotts, Snapmaker donates equipment to embattled de
https://www.tomshardware.com/3d-printing/louis-rossmann-taunts-bambu-lab-by-hosting-banned-3d-printer-firmware-fork-dares-usd1-billion-company-to-sue-him-more-creators-pledge-support-and-boycotts-snapmaker-donates-equipment-to-embattled-developer
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HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 123 pts · 81d
The core point is: The printer runs FOSS software with a GPL license, but the company has modified it with the purpose to tie it to their own cloud service (like these HP inkjet printers for example).
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 28 pts · 81d
Absolute assholes
Kushan@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 81d
That's not strictly accurate.
The slicer is Open Source yes, but not the printer firmware or software. That's closed source and proprietary to Bambu.
Now there's some contention there because a lot of the features and ideas that make modern 3D printing as reliable and great were developed in the open, under open source licenses and Bambu has definitely implemented many of them in their printer firmware, but they don't infringe any licenses in the printer software itself (as far as anyone is aware).
This whole debacle centres around the slicing software, which is separate from the printer itself (though is necessary to actually use the printer) and it's AGPL.
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 7 pts · 80d
The firmware is not unlikely to be linux-based. And hardware drivers for Linux are part of the kernel which is under GPL license.
Kushan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 80d
If that's the case, then it should be trivial to prove and the EFF can force them to open source it.
Let's not make baseless accusations, let's get proof and hold them to it.
cow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 80d
Most 3d printer firmwares run on a microcontroller without Linux.
synestia@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 80d
Not if they're kernel modules, written from scratch, afaik
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 0 pts · 79d
That's not how it works. Kernel modules are part of the kernel and need to adhere to its license, which is GPLv2.
synestia@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 79d
Of my saturdaymorning brain understands this correctly you might in fact be right https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLStaticVsDynamic
Edit: however: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/1hdwm04/comment/m1zmt9d/ and https://docs.kernel.org/process/license-rules.html#id1
So I feel like this is definitely still possible and 'legal' depending on the implementation. Nvidia and AMD have done it for years.
IANAL though :p
Novocirab@feddit.org · 80 pts · 81d
Nice.
wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org · 79 pts · 81d
Louis Rossmann is a hero for using his platform to advocate for consumer rights. I hope he has the continuous support to do this in the future. I would love to support his repair business based on this alone but I live in Europe so I just have to keep posting fanboy comments like this one
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 80d
Tech Jesus been doing good too- aka Gamers Nexus or GNCA
akwd169@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 80d
Rossman is right to repairs gigachad
EtzBetz@feddit.org · 14 pts · 80d
Not all heroes wear capes.
Ngl, at times I found that he was pretty exaggerating and just talking way too much bullshit at companies, because I thought that all of these topics are not that important and you kinda need to have some dependence on big companies because you can't do it in a good way yourself or open source or whatever. But recent events have shown that you should battle against companies and also you can do stuff yourself, if you just keep going and host a great community.
Kudos to Rossmann for his work.
SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 80d
You need to keep purging what is left of liberalism in your system.
TheTrueColonel@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 80d
What
f3nyx@lemmy.ml · 32 pts · 81d
clone, star, fork. we can all help out.
synestia@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 80d
Not on GitHub or any other platform complying with takedown requests though.
f3nyx@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 80d
the stars and forks should be on github to send a message.
cloning and subsequent rehosting should definitely take place on other platforms.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 20 pts · 81d
I guess he's making a calculated decision that a law suit would be good to establish a precedent based on the GPL
tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 79d
He actually says that in ine of his bamboolab videos
Novocirab@feddit.org · 3 pts · 80d
That, and just how the publicity in either case helps to get people on board for right to repair initiatives.
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 79d
Prusas are better fr.
kepix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 79d
"the creators" who praised the product in the first place?
Smackyroon@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 81d
Good! But this doesn't have anything todo with linux....
tabular@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 81d
Would Linux's license not count as about Linux? I don't know if this is the case here but there's a lot of companies that sell hardware running Linux and refuse to follow the license, e.g. by providing source code.
Smackyroon@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 81d
If we did that then just about anything technology could be posted here...then itd jus be another general technology sub....which we have a bazillion of already haha!
edity edit, the word linux doesn't even appear anywhere on the article page....
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 81d
Philosophically, no.
In set theory, also no.
Legally, still no.
Does it contain similar letters? Like Laughter and Slaughter do, yes.
tabular@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 81d
Personally I'd have little interest in Linux if not for it's free software license.
Cort@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 81d