https://www.whitehouse.gov/freedom250/america-prays/
The gathering has been organised by the White House as part of a programme of celebrations for America's 250th birthday and, in a video message inviting Americans to attend, Hegseth said it was an opportunity to "rededicate this republic to God and country".
Muscular Christian nationalism has enjoyed a prominent platform since Trump's return to power, and evangelicals form a core element of the president's support base.
I thought America was a secular state?
A secular state is an idea pertaining to secularity, whereby a state is or purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion.[1] A secular state claims to treat all its citizens equally regardless of religion, and claims to avoid preferential treatment for a citizen based on their religious beliefs, affiliation or lack of either over those with other profiles.
118 Comments
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 79d
And yet I was taught in school that people went to America to escape religious persecution.
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 41 pts · 79d
It's true, they did! They just don't mention they were being persecuted for being christofascist nutjobs nobody could tolerate.
somethingsnappy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 79d
Amd they were persecuted by Christians.
AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 77d
And they banned Christmas.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 76d
And secular music, dancing, card playing, theatres and taverns.
AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
You gotta love the hypocrisy.
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 77d
They wanted a country of their own where they could practice their beliefs of intolerance and hate in peace
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 79d
The people in power spontaneously turned blind to their own history
Auli@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 79d
What happened to separation of church and state. Which was always funny since they have in god we trust on their money.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 78d
That got added during the Cold War. The USSR had no state religion, so the anti commie McCarthyists added that phrase to the money.
boydster@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 78d
Same goes for adding "under God" into the pledge of allegiance
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 77d
I mean the pledge of allegiance was already its whole own brand of very fucked up
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 77d
Makes it pretty clear who the true god is.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 78d
They were “persecuted” in the same manner the modern fundamentalist calls being told to respect the boundaries of others and coexist with different people “persecution”. In an era of religious extremism, the Puritans were so fucking obnoxious even the other Protestants didn’t want them around. It’s a national myth, loosely based on a kernel of truth but twisted to fit the broader idea that Christians, especially the fundamentalist ones, are a victimized, persecuted minority when they don’t get to use their religion as an excuse to force their bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and values on everyone else.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 78d
misread this as bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and wolves
what might that mean???
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 78d
Well cuz, I think you’ve just got canines on the mind. I know they’d like to think of themselves as pack leaders or lone survivors, but the Lord is their shepherd and we all know what shepherds look after. Care for some mutton?
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 79d
Not letting Christians so whatever they want is persecution. /s
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 79d
EPSTEIN FILES!!!! OMG THEY TORTURED, RAPED, AND KILLED CHILDREN. Fuck your stupid prayer. Only the most depraved demon would answer any of their prayers. Also, I hear they ate people too.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 79d
Somebody's gonna rip a phone book in half....
But even with the power of God Almighty, no Christian warrior can rip the Epstein Files in half.
/s
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 79d
HAHAHAHA I also read this and was like wot, maybe its british slang LMAO idk
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 79d
They're definitely using it like "bullying".
As in it's upfront and in people's faces?
I've never heard it used that way but in context it makes sense. I just immediately pictured the Workaholics episode where they had "Christian Strongmen".
https://youtu.be/VqvbDUBC_FM?t=82
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 77d
Nope, Muscular Christianity is a religious movement that attempted to tie Christianity to fitness, masculinity, and patriotism as well as the rejection of more traditional Christian values such as meekness and pacifism. It's deeply tied to crises of masculinity.
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
OMG wtfff
Soulphite@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 79d
The Nat-C's are a helluva regime.
Astronut@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 79d
They just make me führerious!
human@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 79d
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 77d
JSYK Muscular Christianity is a religious movement that attempted to tie Christianity to fitness, masculinity, and patriotism as well as the rejection of more traditional Christian values such as meekness and pacifism. It's deeply tied to crises of masculinity.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 37 pts · 79d
Matthew 6:5
“And when you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 79d
All while proudly going against most teaching of the bible
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 78d
They should trot out the golden idol
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 77d
The Golden American Idol
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 79d
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 79d
LMAO I love you and I love this lol
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 77d
I'll gay with you today. Hell I'll gay with you any day!
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 79d
We can pray for the demise of Christofascism, but it's going to be our job to make that prayer come true.
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 77d
Let's get rid of the cryptofascists and let god sort them out.
dizzle18@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 79d
Oh dear sweet baby Jesus, please reach down from the heavens above and make this motherfucker's heart explode. There. I prayed.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 79d
Please oh Lord, extend thy noodly appendage and make him shit himself so hard that his small intestine prolapses.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 78d
Ramen
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 77d
Amen
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 79d
Oh I'll be praying for something alright ..
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 78d
They need to do this from their closet.
At least according to their own text.
https://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html?v=6
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 77d
Priests read this as gospel at mass where everyone shows up to pray in public and will 100% gossip behind your back if you miss a Sunday or don't look like you're praying hard enough while there.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 77d
I'm so glad I live in a part of the United States where I just don't have to give a fuck about picking the "right" church and doing the "right" things there. I have to pay as much attention to that shit as I do to how much someone loves Harry Potter series vs. Star Wars.
Though apparently that is a huuuuge thing in certain parts of the U.S., notably, the South.
My view is that religion and all its little rules and rituals are for those that have adapted that lifestyle. Since I live in a secular nation, I don't have to give two farts in a high wind about any of it.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 79d
May they be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
Triumph@fedia.io · 4 pts · 79d
touchedstrangleddbtng@moist.catsweat.com · 4 pts · 79d
Up all the wrong places. Way up there.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 79d
Donald Trump is a prophet of the old testament. He even got the part about fucking his own daughter right.
Etterra@discuss.online · 13 pts · 78d
Ah yes, Christians, the oppressed 69%.
AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 78d
Nice
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 79d
Most of Christianity in USA is disgusting and unchristian.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 78d
Can we get a petition going to officially change the name of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy?
I'm actually not even kidding, "no true Christian" is far more relevant today.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 79d
At least you don't have that scary brown lady.
But hey, bOtH sIdEs R tEh SaMe amirite?
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 76d
We still do the big letter small letter thing?
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 79d
Kinda lame Lockheed Liberal talking point.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 79d
President Jill Stein agrees.
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 79d
I can’t wait for after the midterms when that last spark of hope dies.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 78d
I guess "bluemaga" didn't takeoff, huh? Keep trying!
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 78d
LOL, every time I saw someone trying to get that phrase to take hold...reminded me of someone trying to make "fetch" happen. 🤣
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 79d
jEnOsiEd GoEeeee
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 79d
“White house to pander to Christian voters because they’re scared about the midterms”
chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 78d
hail satan!
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 78d
Hall Santa!
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 78d
madcaesar@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 79d
If heaven is filled with Christians like Trump, send me straight to hell.
osanna@lemmy.vg · 4 pts · 78d
My thing is, why would satan punish people for sinning. He is the ultimate sinner. Surely satan would revel in the sins. Wouldn’t he praise the sinners?
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 78d
God's just another shitty boss. Satan was just the first union organizer trying to get fair treatment for himself and his coworkers. Hell was his punishment for that. He's not in charge of anything as far as is described by the text.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 78d
Is Satan controlled opposition? Is he heaven's Chuck Schumer?
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 78d
Trump isn't a christian but I know what you mean
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 77d
I sort of wonder if we're not already in hell, as detrrmined by the last election?
Soulphite@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 79d
I'll pray.. I'll pray the good lord takes him awaaayyyyyyyyyyy, yeaahh!
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 9 pts · 79d
Satanists should demand equal access to do the same thing.
Akh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 79d
Nothing Christian about it.
human@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 79d
Respectfully disagree.
While it doesn't comport with many (better) people's concepts of it, these people aren't all hopped up on secular humanism when they ban books and open de-transition centers
Drusas@fedia.io · 4 pts · 78d
There's nothing Christian about de-transitioning centers.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 78d
Except that they're literally all ran by Christians who use Christianity and the Bible to backup their reasoning for existing.
Just a coincidence probably.
Drusas@fedia.io · 1 pts · 77d
In what way do they back it up with the bible?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 77d
Yeah I'm not going to waste time steel manning some of the most ubiquitous arguments these shitty people have. I'm certain you can figure this out on your own.
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 76d
Well they all carry bibles they thump.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 79d
Thought this was the Onion for a second.
Sucks you can’t even tell real news from the onion these days. :/
noxypaws@pawb.social · 8 pts · 78d
I'd piss on a bible tomorrow if I had one
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 78d
I'd piss on all religious books as all religions serve the same purpose
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 78d
If they're not Trump-branded, they can be very inexpensive
noxypaws@pawb.social · 1 pts · 78d
Still not gonna pay for a bible tho!
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 79d
I pray they get struck by lightning.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 78d
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 78d
I pray every day. Just not to the god they expect me to......
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 76d
You got a good one? I'm always on the lookout for a good god.
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
Currently been praying to Bast. Doing great for me and my rhubarb insane family of cats
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 75d
Great choice! Yeah you can't go wrong with Egyptian, it's always classy. Solid choice for a cat cult. Do her physical incarnations require many sacrifices to appease?
Taleya@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 77d
Kazoos on standby
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 77d
Hail. Mother fucking. SATAN if these are the assholes telling you to pray to Jesus
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 76d
Satan brought us light, fire, and knowledge. What did the Abrahamitic god ever do for US??
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 79d
Maybe the felon needs some big operation tomorrow? Or they should give him his last rites?
dbtng@moist.catsweat.com · 5 pts · 79d
I'm so atheist that I find even discussing it asinine. It's odd to me that a grown adult could hold any other opinion, and I'd rather keep pretending that I'm surrounded by grown adults. So I don't discuss it at all. And then shit like this comes along ...
o0evillusion0o@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 79d
Will they be talking about the TRUMP-EPSTEIN (TM) files?
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 79d
I'd rather be in this hell then bow to the knee to these fuck ups or any religion, besides all the women I like would be there as well if their "imagination land" were real so fug off you orange dingleberry
Triumph@fedia.io · 2 pts · 79d
Bit of an edgelord, eh?
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 78d
Nah just never bowed to anyone, I project what they give, everyone plain and simple, I don't like what's goin on, but until a gorgeous latina is by my side and they try takin her, it's on, but also I be standin herealone much like everyone else spoutin off, so take it as it comes
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 79d
I don't pray any other day, but I'm going to not pray extra hard tomorrow.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 78d
I don't pray
And you don't pray
It seems it's been that way forever
So if I don't pray
And you don't pray
Why not not pray together?
devolution@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 77d
Wipin' mah ass with the constitution...
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 77d
I can pray. He won't like to whom or for what I pray, but sure, the gods could use another plea for his downfall.
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 76d
I pray to all the gods except that one. That one is a piece of shit.
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 77d
Can't travel there and I'm not muslim. But if I could, I'd show up with a prayer rug and FSM teeshirt, and kneel facing Mecca while loudly making noises.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 76d
Don't Pastafarians face Naples?
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 79d
No
Bloefz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 79d
I have no gods to pray to but anyway good luck with that
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 79d
You are your own god tho ;) ^^
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 74d
He demands people pray to him. If they pray to God, they get thrown in a lion's den
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 78d
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 77d
Celebrating Calvinists and puritans. My oh my what has the world come back to...
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 78d
How does one not pray extra hard?
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 76d
I pay someone to pray for me.
They've got an app for that!
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 76d
Cut out the middleman, hire me direct. I guarantee the same success rates!
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 75d
Do you offer flat service rates or itemized billing for: (check all that apply)
Emergency baptisms
Last rites
Holy relic rental
Indulgences
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 78d
When you’re post-nut clarified and asking Jesus to forgive you for jorkin’ it for the fifth time that day.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 78d
The government is endorsing the concept that the citizens should reject Critical Thinking Skills, and embrace Faith-Based Thinking, in which people believe what they are told, without any evidence, based solely on faith in the authority sending the message. Once they've convinced someone of their authority, anything they say will be believed, no matter how outlandish.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 79d
Okay.
"Dear Satan…"