It is impressive how I almost always hear about Claude stuff for paid programming services and never copilot. Normal search engine replacement stuff, I'll hear almost exclusively about people using ChatGPT and Gemini. Then people self hosting, I'll hear all the free stuff like Deepseek, Kimi, Qwen, ...
People just talk trash about copilot. I swear even Proton Lumo gets less heat and when people want upgrades, they're all urging Proton to add the latest Deepseek, Qwen, Kimi, etc models to their algorithm. Microsoft has got to have one of the most hostile to themselves customer base to be rivaled only by companies like Oracle
That's because Copilot and Gemini were the first, and are easily accessible. That's why they stuck for the normal search engine replacement. They are also built into their search engine counterparts.
Claude on the other side costs money, so only professionals (who need the performance, or however that's called) use it.
One reason why the LLM playing field is kind of levelled and "being first" isn't all too meaningful, is that the research was already out there for quite some time before the hype started.
The hype got kicked off, when these large corporations figured out that pouring lots of money into this approach does something. Well, and when there were lots of cheap GPUs on the market from cryptocurrencies imploding.
But as soon as the hype was there, getting investors to give you lots of money and getting GPUs, that's something virtually any company could do.
Having said all that, the other points still stand and they probably could've held their position without even being the best platform. Nevermind especially that Microsoft is most certainly getting lots and lots of investment money for LLMs, too.
The ironic thing about this comment is that OOP used the greentext format (markdown quotes on platforms that don't support markdown quotes), from the other nazi network
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Mr_Fish@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 94d
Yahoo: welcome to the club
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 94d
Sears: get off my lawn
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 94d
Netflix: Well AktuAllY
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 13 pts · 94d
Lycos: first time?
AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 94d
That's the speciality of MicroSlop they also fumbled Skype and maybe more that I don't know
Scrollone@feddit.it · 18 pts · 93d
They've also fumbled Windows itself.
I've never seen a company slopping so hard as Microslop.
commander@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 94d
It is impressive how I almost always hear about Claude stuff for paid programming services and never copilot. Normal search engine replacement stuff, I'll hear almost exclusively about people using ChatGPT and Gemini. Then people self hosting, I'll hear all the free stuff like Deepseek, Kimi, Qwen, ...
People just talk trash about copilot. I swear even Proton Lumo gets less heat and when people want upgrades, they're all urging Proton to add the latest Deepseek, Qwen, Kimi, etc models to their algorithm. Microsoft has got to have one of the most hostile to themselves customer base to be rivaled only by companies like Oracle
AAA@feddit.org · 3 pts · 93d
That's because Copilot and Gemini were the first, and are easily accessible. That's why they stuck for the normal search engine replacement. They are also built into their search engine counterparts.
Claude on the other side costs money, so only professionals (who need the performance, or however that's called) use it.
trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 94d
One reason why the LLM playing field is kind of levelled and "being first" isn't all too meaningful, is that the research was already out there for quite some time before the hype started.
The hype got kicked off, when these large corporations figured out that pouring lots of money into this approach does something. Well, and when there were lots of cheap GPUs on the market from cryptocurrencies imploding.
But as soon as the hype was there, getting investors to give you lots of money and getting GPUs, that's something virtually any company could do.
Having said all that, the other points still stand and they probably could've held their position without even being the best platform. Nevermind especially that Microsoft is most certainly getting lots and lots of investment money for LLMs, too.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 94d
OpenAI's vastly inferior LLM sends its regards
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 94d
kinda of hilarious that MS has a stake in both of the worst commercial LLM offerings
drmoose@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 93d
The only thing worse than Github fumble is still posting nazi network screenshots.
Just steal the joke - there has never been a more socially acceptable "theft" than this and you still pussy out.
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 93d
The ironic thing about this comment is that OOP used the greentext format (markdown quotes on platforms that don't support markdown quotes), from the other nazi network
barubary@infosec.exchange · 0 pts · 93d
"markdown quotes" 😆
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 93d
>This is how you write a quote in markdown
1984@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 93d
It's microsoft technology, you are expecting too much.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 94d
Scrollone@feddit.it · 12 pts · 93d
"You are literally the first one" doesn't refer to the collaborative code platform, but to their LLM product (Copilot).
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 93d
folaht@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 93d
It wasn't by design?
cockmushroom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 93d
Not a fumble. They weren't building copilot to help people, they were building it to flex.