Google is rolling in mobile verification to ReCAPTCHA, requiring an approved phone and if on Android, a Google account.
Privacy-based phones will be locked out of this. You can choose between remaining secure and private or viewing a website using Google's ReCAPTCHA service.
Can you technically install Google Play Services on GraphineOS? Obviously, it would be a major hit to your privacy compared to the previous system, but still technically possible...
Yes, play services can be installed and used on Graphene, I have it installed currently and it meets the version requirements set forth in the FAQ.
That being said, there's speculation in the groups that Google will eventually go the same way with this as they did for locking out privacy users from the Google Pay system, saying it's not a trusted OS. This could very well end the same way. I can see a ton of people dipping their toes in the waters of privacy-based operating systems on their phones to go back to Google's Android because they don't want to lose access to every single site that uses ReCAPTCHA in far greater numbers than were persuaded by locking them out of pay services.
That's not the point of the QR code. The point is Google is requiring a certified Google account and phone to allow access. Privacy-based phones are not welcome. I would suggest closing the tab when these pop up.
reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification is the section at the bottom that's relevant.
Yikes. I was imagining they were only trying to trick people into using their phones that could be tracked (in addition to jumping through arbitrarily placed hoops in the traditional captcha style) not that they were actually requiring a phone running Google spyware. That's insane.
That's the point. Recognizing a car; stairs; busses; motorcycles; stoplights; we used to be the only ones who were able to do this, but now LLMs can likely do them better and faster than we can.
But QR codes have always been deciphered by machines, so how would me using a machine to scan the QR prove my humanity? It just shows there's a phone with my ID on it. It's just 2FA, not are-you-human.
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schwim@piefed.zip · 70 pts · 94d
Google is rolling in mobile verification to ReCAPTCHA, requiring an approved phone and if on Android, a Google account.
Privacy-based phones will be locked out of this. You can choose between remaining secure and private or viewing a website using Google's ReCAPTCHA service.
https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 93d
The Internet was fun for a time... in the beginning... then capitalism used it to implement fascism and enslave humanity.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · 2 pts · 93d
The internet didn't make everyone vote for Trump.
Zirconium@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 93d
Well… they certainly helped
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 93d
Didn’t do much to stop it, either.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · -3 pts · 93d
Almost like it is irrelevant to how the charlatans and liars got into power...
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 93d
I don't believe it, sorry
XLE@piefed.social · 3 pts · 93d
Can you technically install Google Play Services on GraphineOS? Obviously, it would be a major hit to your privacy compared to the previous system, but still technically possible...
schwim@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 93d
Yes, play services can be installed and used on Graphene, I have it installed currently and it meets the version requirements set forth in the FAQ.
That being said, there's speculation in the groups that Google will eventually go the same way with this as they did for locking out privacy users from the Google Pay system, saying it's not a trusted OS. This could very well end the same way. I can see a ton of people dipping their toes in the waters of privacy-based operating systems on their phones to go back to Google's Android because they don't want to lose access to every single site that uses ReCAPTCHA in far greater numbers than were persuaded by locking them out of pay services.
Zirconium@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 93d
Could try using an older used phone (I have like 2 old Motorola's) with stock ROM
Dhs92@piefed.social · 0 pts · 93d
Yes? It's officially supported, too. It sandboxes Google play and limits its system access
kbal@fedia.io · 37 pts · 94d
As we know, only humans are capable of reading QR codes.
schwim@piefed.zip · 46 pts · 94d
That's not the point of the QR code. The point is Google is requiring a certified Google account and phone to allow access. Privacy-based phones are not welcome. I would suggest closing the tab when these pop up.
reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification is the section at the bottom that's relevant.
https://support.google.com/recaptcha/?hl=en
kbal@fedia.io · 16 pts · 94d
Yikes. I was imagining they were only trying to trick people into using their phones that could be tracked (in addition to jumping through arbitrarily placed hoops in the traditional captcha style) not that they were actually requiring a phone running Google spyware. That's insane.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 94d
Eh? Since when can humans decode a QR code on the fly, we always need a machine to do it.
This is a method Google is using to track website usage to actual people by making them scan a code on a device attached to a Google account.
kaidenshi@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 93d
I think you missed the sarcasm.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 93d
Always a possibility.
bluGill@fedia.io · 6 pts · 94d
If you read the spec it isn't impossible to decode QR codes by hand. It isn't what I'd call easy, but it is more tedious than hard.
NostraDavid@programming.dev · 3 pts · 93d
That's the point. Recognizing a car; stairs; busses; motorcycles; stoplights; we used to be the only ones who were able to do this, but now LLMs can likely do them better and faster than we can.
But QR codes have always been deciphered by machines, so how would me using a machine to scan the QR prove my humanity? It just shows there's a phone with my ID on it. It's just 2FA, not are-you-human.
thenextguy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 93d
lukstru@piefed.social · 25 pts · 94d
I thought this was a scam, but apparently it's just Google??
tramdan@piefed.social · 23 pts · 93d
Both
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 93d
Is there a difference?
Dumhuvud@programming.dev · 9 pts · 93d
If I were to ever encounter that, I'd just Ctrl+W.
Asafum@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 93d
I ran into this and just changed the browser to "desktop mode" then it went back to the typical one you'd see.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 93d
Yeah i refreshed and got a regular one.
XLE@piefed.social · 1 pts · 92d
There is still also the option for a visual (previous norm) and audio version, which they might have to keep offering.
gndagreborn@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 93d
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 4 pts · 93d
cc @IndustryStandard@lemmy.world stop using archive.is‽
hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 93d
is internet archive the only alternative?
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 3 pts · 93d
there’s https://ghostarchive.org/
folks can also mirror their own.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 93d
In anddition to the tracking use, this also works to verify if the account being used to verify is adult or not.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 93d
I guarantee you, this is not the use case.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 93d
Either way, it’s a bad thing
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 93d
I agree completely
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 93d
My initial thought wasn’t communicated in the first post; people may not link the tracking to the age verification or vice versa.
This does feel like an a/b test to slowly introduce an entirely different level of tracking and privacy invasion.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 93d
Ah. You're right. Not everyone is/was aware of this taking place before this post, and its implications.