If you put them too close to each other, Russia will try to invade. They're drawn to it sorta like a magnetic Poland field. Once you have too many Poland's, it's best to play it safe.
There's an old mexican comedy show where the teacher asks a student how many centimeters are in a meter - she answers something like "29. And there's even room for more!"
Isn’t the garbage island like the size of at least three Polands these days? At some point it’s going to accumulate enough organic debris to develop its own topsoil and eventually ecosystem.
It's not really an island though. There's just more garbage there than elsewhere.
Despite the common public perception of the patch existing as giant islands of floating garbage, its low density (4 particles per cubic metre (3.1/yd3)) prevents detection by satellite imagery, or even by casual boaters or divers in the area.
i hear someone was doing something to make it smaller, which i'm not sure how i feel about because we're going to need all the viable landmass we can get
In the purely speculative fiction mindset of “what if”, I am kinda fascinated by the idea that nature will eventually find a to deal with our hubris. We can make the planet uninhabitable for ourselves as we know ourselves and the other living beings we currently see living around us. Because we know this and are aware of the potential we should use that same awareness to lessen the impact, not just for ourselves but because there’s living being who can’t stop or lessen the impact of what we’re doing. But give the planet a few more hundred million years and on the off chance there’s still a hominid lineage kicking it, they won’t be Homo sapiens as we recognize them and while our plastics are unnatural, Mother Nature will eventually find a way to make due with what we’ve done or recycle it. That’s not nihilism or an excuse to not care/prevent, just the reality that we’re a brief moment in geologic time even if we’ve utterly fucked the current environment during our stay.
you might enjoy the book Earth by David Bryn. I liked it because it has gravity waves and transhumanism. OOO i just remembered also voluntary reversible sterilization as like, birth control. I can't remember if the Garbage Patch was a new continent or just a city, but i think it featured in the book. I will say no more because spoilers, it's best to discover the book yourself. I think i last read it a decade ago.
Not true. This is a screenshot taken from https://thetruesize.com/, which addresses the issue you mention. You can see, for example, that the yellow outline of poland is larger than the cyan one nearer the equator.
Here's one I did myself to better illustrate that effect:
The Pacific ocean has a surface area of approximately 165 million square kilometres, and poland is about 300,000 square kilometres, so on that basis, you should be able to squeeze around 550 polands into the Pacific, though poorly fitting edges would obviously reduce that, but suffice to say, 16 is well undercounted, and the image accurately portrays that
I really don't understand why you're doubling down here, when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The map I used and the one originally posted are both from the same website, and when overlaid, the two maps match pixel for pixel. There is no difference in projection or distortion between them. The outlines of Poland are very clearly not the same size all over the map.
So since the mean depth of the Pacific's around 4000m, that means, without squishing them, we cannot even fit two layers. If we flip the top layer upside down, we should manage to match the tallest bits with lower bits, and fit them beneath sea level. ... since that top one's upside down now, and staying under sea level would be an arbitrary extra restriction I'd be imposing on myself, we can scrap that arbitrary restriction, and use that upturned flat cut underbelly to plonk a third ontop...
But that's still not as many stacked as I thought.
I like to bake and I use mostly weights for measuring. When I explain to people how it's easier and faster, I will finish as a joke that I weigh in stones. Those that know how bad a unit of measure stones would be for baking laugh. I dont think it would work as well using "polands".
81 Comments
DahGangalang@infosec.pub · 75 pts · 86d
Wow, the Pacific Ocean must be really wide, like, that's gotta be longer than 2 football fields placed end to end.
Klear@piefed.world · 33 pts · 86d
Two? Double that number, then double it again...
morto@piefed.social · 40 pts · 86d
Be careful with exponentials!
sik0fewl@piefed.ca · 23 pts · 86d
Do not double it more than 17 times or it will not fit.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 86d
can't fold it more than 7 times either
TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 86d
I thought you making a joke about the number in the post being an arbitrary 16 until I did the math
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 11 pts · 86d
So Six Football fields?
Klear@piefed.world · 9 pts · 86d
Probably maybe!
OpenStars@piefed.social · 7 pts · 86d
Or Seven even...
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 86d
Six seven, nobody really knows
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 85d
And the depth of at least 10 double decker buses.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe · 40 pts · 86d
Ah yes, the optimal packing of 16 Polands
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 86d
I suspect with some work we could even fit Poland 17 in there...
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 86d
If you put them too close to each other, Russia will try to invade. They're drawn to it sorta like a magnetic Poland field. Once you have too many Poland's, it's best to play it safe.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 1 pts · 86d
But how will Russia invade Poland without Nazi Germany there to help them??
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 32 pts · 86d
But 17, probably not.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 26 pts · 86d
No, after that critical point, Poland would start to win.
oxideseven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 86d
Are you trying to create a radioactive super Poland!?
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 86d
Mathematics believes it is possible, they just have to work out the optimal packing.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 86d
::: spoiler How do you sink a Polish battleship?
By placing the entire country of Poland into the Pacific Ocean while the Battleship is in drydock.
:::
JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net · 24 pts · 86d
We haven't found the upper limit yet, but with more research funding we can get closer
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 86d
Scientific funding in a nutshell. Fuck me.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 86d
Only if you behave yourself.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 86d
I like how they started to make a grid then just went "fuck it" lol
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 86d
If you think that’s bad, wait until they try to fit 17!
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 86d
bridgeburner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 85d
Thanks, now I'm hungry for waffles
Tiger_Man_@szmer.info · 3 pts · 85d
we need an algorithm that calculates the most effiicient way to pack polandsinto any object
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 86d
You try moving a Poland. It's a stout country.
mmmm@sopuli.xyz · 19 pts · 86d
There's an old mexican comedy show where the teacher asks a student how many centimeters are in a meter - she answers something like "29. And there's even room for more!"
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 86d
El Chavo? Sounds like something the Chilindrina would say.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 86d
The Atlantic Ocean can hold 17 Polands. Therefore, the Atlantic Ocean is bigger.
Kraiden@piefed.social · 14 pts · 86d
Americans will use anything but metric
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 11 pts · 86d
You see, Texas wouldn't fit even once, because it's twice the size of the earth. Europeans will never understand that.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 86d
Isn’t the garbage island like the size of at least three Polands these days? At some point it’s going to accumulate enough organic debris to develop its own topsoil and eventually ecosystem.
apex32@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 86d
It's not really an island though. There's just more garbage there than elsewhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 86d
I was being hyperbolic and facetious.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
well make more trash then duderino
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 86d
i hear someone was doing something to make it smaller, which i'm not sure how i feel about because we're going to need all the viable landmass we can get
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 86d
In the purely speculative fiction mindset of “what if”, I am kinda fascinated by the idea that nature will eventually find a to deal with our hubris. We can make the planet uninhabitable for ourselves as we know ourselves and the other living beings we currently see living around us. Because we know this and are aware of the potential we should use that same awareness to lessen the impact, not just for ourselves but because there’s living being who can’t stop or lessen the impact of what we’re doing. But give the planet a few more hundred million years and on the off chance there’s still a hominid lineage kicking it, they won’t be Homo sapiens as we recognize them and while our plastics are unnatural, Mother Nature will eventually find a way to make due with what we’ve done or recycle it. That’s not nihilism or an excuse to not care/prevent, just the reality that we’re a brief moment in geologic time even if we’ve utterly fucked the current environment during our stay.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
you might enjoy the book Earth by David Bryn. I liked it because it has gravity waves and transhumanism. OOO i just remembered also voluntary reversible sterilization as like, birth control. I can't remember if the Garbage Patch was a new continent or just a city, but i think it featured in the book. I will say no more because spoilers, it's best to discover the book yourself. I think i last read it a decade ago.
psud@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 86d
Modelled on a mercator projection which doesn't preserve area, then showing exactly the same size on every latitude
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 23 pts · 86d
Not true. This is a screenshot taken from https://thetruesize.com/, which addresses the issue you mention. You can see, for example, that the yellow outline of poland is larger than the cyan one nearer the equator.
Here's one I did myself to better illustrate that effect:
The Pacific ocean has a surface area of approximately 165 million square kilometres, and poland is about 300,000 square kilometres, so on that basis, you should be able to squeeze around 550 polands into the Pacific, though poorly fitting edges would obviously reduce that, but suffice to say, 16 is well undercounted, and the image accurately portrays that
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 86d
No, it clearly says you can fit 16 poland in the Pacific, not more
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 85d
You can fit 16 polands into that area. OP doesn't make any claim that you can only fit 16.
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 85d
Yeah but we only have 16 Poland in stock
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 85d
Well at least there are a few backups in case Poland should ever need restoring.
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 85d
They learned to keep those backups after the first couple of times.
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
I have some polish as well but they're not quite the real thing
psud@aussie.zone · -2 pts · 85d
I know that the ocean is big enough, but OP uses a Mercator projection and pastes the same size Poland all over the map
You have used correctly resized maps, they didn't
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 85d
I really don't understand why you're doubling down here, when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The map I used and the one originally posted are both from the same website, and when overlaid, the two maps match pixel for pixel. There is no difference in projection or distortion between them. The outlines of Poland are very clearly not the same size all over the map.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 10 pts · 85d
16!
It's not wrong.
The Pacific Ocean is so vast in area it could hold 528 Polands.
The Pacific Ocean is also deep... Can we start stacking the Polands?
Tiger_Man_@szmer.info · 6 pts · 85d
1 poland is 2500,8m tall fyi
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 85d
Thanks. Useful information.
So since the mean depth of the Pacific's around 4000m, that means, without squishing them, we cannot even fit two layers. If we flip the top layer upside down, we should manage to match the tallest bits with lower bits, and fit them beneath sea level. ... since that top one's upside down now, and staying under sea level would be an arbitrary extra restriction I'd be imposing on myself, we can scrap that arbitrary restriction, and use that upturned flat cut underbelly to plonk a third ontop...
But that's still not as many stacked as I thought.
The pacific's tiny.
It can only hold about 1582 Polands.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 83d
Poland into pacific 💪💪💪
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 83d
Yes.
...?
Are you hinting we should pause to question why?
Maybe not all the Polands want to be in the Pacific.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 85d
Could maybe wedge one more Poland vertically scrunched up into The Mariana Trench... 1583.
Okay. The Pacific's pretty big.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 83d
The airspace above it belongs to a nation, so it's gotta be more
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 85d
It can't hold 16! Polands, you're exaggerating
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 85d
*clicks fingers and points*
Not deep enough.
Right.
Should have known.
Poles.
Tall.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 85d
You monster!
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 86d
Those three Polands are conspiring against the other 13!
Jakylla@jlai.lu · 9 pts · 86d
And 13! is a lot of Polands
nexguy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 86d
I've often thought about Poland and the pacific ocean. I always considered you could fit 7 or 8 or 173 or even 9. But 16? That really is mind blowing.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 86d
Bigly if true
Routhinator@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 86d
Technically correct.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 86d
yeah, but one of those polands is so vast it can hold texas lovingly and tenderly
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 86d
And this is why poland should be the standard unit of measurement.
DredPyr8Roberts@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
I like to bake and I use mostly weights for measuring. When I explain to people how it's easier and faster, I will finish as a joke that I weigh in stones. Those that know how bad a unit of measure stones would be for baking laugh. I dont think it would work as well using "polands".
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 83d
Tell us where you're from without telling us where you're from
Hupf@feddit.org · 3 pts · 86d
!CartographyAnarchy@sh.itjust.works
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 86d
something is wrong, i can see new zealand on this map
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 86d
Ssssssssshhhh! We're hiding. Don't tell everyone where we are!
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
That's a lot of kielbasa!
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
Where did you find the other 15?
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 86d
Thank you
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
Well that's not surprising.
There are only 2 poles, the north pole and the south pole.
How big can that country be?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 86d
You get a multi buy discount if you purchase 16 Poland's in one transaction
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 86d
Even a multicolor assortment of 16 Polands!
jlow@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 86d
Repost to Anything Bit Metric 😸
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 86d
jdr@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 86d
Right where they belong