The bill allows New York City to require the speed governor for the cars of traffic scofflaws who incur school zone speed camera violations 16 times or more in 12 months. The city would create and run the pilot program.
Camera-based violations are typically civil instead of criminal. AKA pay fines instead of getting points on your license or facing jail time.
If you want the jet-black cynical take, this is because repeat offenders are better for the municipal budget than turning them into non-drivers.
A more measured take is that it's very hard to prove who was driving just based on these cameras, so while the registered owner can be civilly responsible for what their vehicle did, it's a bigger challenge and expense to prove that they're criminally responsible.
In Australia we have a point system, each driving offence (whether caught by a cop or a robot) deducts points, reach zero points and you lose your driver's licence
The final legislation includes carve-outs for several classes of drivers. Vehicles owned and operated by the state, city, public agencies or political subdivisions are exempt
I'm fine with police, fire and ambulance not being covered by the law. But there are also cars for various public officials, and I think those should be covered.
joining all vehicles regulated by the New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission.
Uh, what? No. Taxis are already dangerous enough!
Commercial vehicles that are regularly used by two or more drivers are also exempt.
No, it should be all vehicles the person has regular access to. If that inconveniences the guy's coworkers, then the guy can just live with the public shame of having zipped through school zones 16 times in a year.
drivers will also have to install the devices on all vehicles registered under their name, which would prevent the abuse of family cars or similar arrangements
No it doesn't. The governors should be installed on all cars in a household, not just one person's name.
There are some crazy drivers that love to speed by my place every night, all night. Loud ones. Popcorn makers. I’m considering spike strips and hoping they hit a tree.
18 Comments
htrayl@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 97d
What? Why do they have licenses still?
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 96d
Camera-based violations are typically civil instead of criminal. AKA pay fines instead of getting points on your license or facing jail time.
If you want the jet-black cynical take, this is because repeat offenders are better for the municipal budget than turning them into non-drivers.
A more measured take is that it's very hard to prove who was driving just based on these cameras, so while the registered owner can be civilly responsible for what their vehicle did, it's a bigger challenge and expense to prove that they're criminally responsible.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 96d
In Australia we have a point system, each driving offence (whether caught by a cop or a robot) deducts points, reach zero points and you lose your driver's licence
People on a handful of points become very careful
Best of all money won't save you
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 96d
that is NOT true, get a business owned car, they pay a fine only, no points.
Fine based system like Australias are designed to punish poor people, if not we'd be using the Finnish system that's linked to your earnings.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
roll the dice, who knows, maybe with dozens of incidents of cutting through the school zone they'll never hit some kid. why not.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 96d
SHOULD BE IN FUCKING JAIL. 12 x in 12 months should be losing their fucking license for years.
HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social · 16 pts · 97d
Ah, finally going after the cops, right?
... right?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
If we could get cops to stop murdering people, maybe they'd have more time to enforce the laws that are on the books for shit like this.
aramis87@fedia.io · 13 pts · 97d
I'm fine with police, fire and ambulance not being covered by the law. But there are also cars for various public officials, and I think those should be covered.
Uh, what? No. Taxis are already dangerous enough!
No, it should be all vehicles the person has regular access to. If that inconveniences the guy's coworkers, then the guy can just live with the public shame of having zipped through school zones 16 times in a year.
No it doesn't. The governors should be installed on all cars in a household, not just one person's name.
nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 97d
I mean I hear you, but I'll take the win if this basically just targets luxury coupe drivers.
scibra122@piefed.social · 11 pts · 97d
After 16 times specifically in a school zone in a 12 month period? Surely this is so watered down it affects nobod-
Insanity
kibblebits@quokk.au · 11 pts · 97d
There are some crazy drivers that love to speed by my place every night, all night. Loud ones. Popcorn makers. I’m considering spike strips and hoping they hit a tree.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 96d
Youth love the roundabout near me for turning tyres into smoke, then they speed down the residential street.
We had a break for several months when one wrapped his dad's SS Commodore around a front yard tree on the inside of the first turn
kibblebits@quokk.au · -2 pts · 96d
Too bad they didn’t die
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 95d
They grow out of that sort of bad behaviour
kibblebits@quokk.au · 0 pts · 95d
Do they?
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 95d
Most do, then they're replaced by the next cohort of young men with dad's muscle car
strop@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 96d
Fuck cars