The heading is a bit confusing. The committee voted in favour of the agreement: zero tariffs for imports of US products into the EU and 15% tariffs for importing EU goods into the US. In addition to opening the EU market to US agricultural products.
I think the idea of “hurt” deserves some embellishment. Politicians and financiers in Europe are not willing to internalize the potential hardship of making a clean break from the U.S. NATO is still the current paradigm even though the United States shits on it all the time. As long as Russia remains a bogey man, the U.S. will be able to game European politics.
I mean, the choice is basically between 15% tarrifs in the US and 0% in the EU, or more in both. Both hurt the EU, but the latter hurts the EU more - it just also hurts the US more.
They didn't agree to zero tariffs on US imports, many US goods have been tariffed for decades. It scraps tariffs for specific US goods. It also doesn’t agree to a blanket 15% tariff rate but rather caps US tariffs to 15%
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HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 83d
Fuck that shit. Boycott US goods and sevices!
gabelstapler@feddit.org · 19 pts · 83d
The heading is a bit confusing. The committee voted in favour of the agreement: zero tariffs for imports of US products into the EU and 15% tariffs for importing EU goods into the US. In addition to opening the EU market to US agricultural products.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 83d
That is an objectively bad ""agreement"". It makes us more dependent. Why shouldn't we do the reverse?
Vincent@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 83d
Europe has a weak negotiation position because it's not willing to hurt itself.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 83d
I dunno, this is very willing to hurt itself.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 83d
I think the idea of “hurt” deserves some embellishment. Politicians and financiers in Europe are not willing to internalize the potential hardship of making a clean break from the U.S. NATO is still the current paradigm even though the United States shits on it all the time. As long as Russia remains a bogey man, the U.S. will be able to game European politics.
Vincent@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 82d
I mean, the choice is basically between 15% tarrifs in the US and 0% in the EU, or more in both. Both hurt the EU, but the latter hurts the EU more - it just also hurts the US more.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 82d
I'd prefer the latter. Europe must grow more sovereign, and the US becoming more dependent on us would help.
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 83d
That's increadibly stupid. 15% import tarrifs from EU to the US, sure, but right back at 'em. 15% into EU. Anything else is capitulation.
ironblossom@feddit.org · 2 pts · 82d
They didn't agree to zero tariffs on US imports, many US goods have been tariffed for decades. It scraps tariffs for specific US goods. It also doesn’t agree to a blanket 15% tariff rate but rather caps US tariffs to 15%
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 83d
Bullshit, we shouldn't let ourselves be policed by Amerislops.
Europe must be sovereign. A European coordination of military is necessary.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 83d
Hear hear, but a militarized Europe means Germany at the helm, and Germany must be a sovereign state for that to happen…
HowRu68@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
It's about the ratification of the ( ammended!) EU- US deal from last year. Nothing really new here, apart from the "Greenland clause" ofc.