Making a living as a YouTuber / Influencer literally depends on capitalist methods. I.e the platforms (YouTube , Instagram, etc), and producing and selling merch. The entire idea of "content creation" is capitalistic.
Socalism is when people who work at a company, own the company, and share in the profits. But not everyone will want to do that. Some will still want to do their own thing. They'd be paid by people (viewers in this case) same as we do now.
Probably not youtube, because in a truly open market with socialist rules, youtube would have fallen with its constant enshittification and be replaced with a more user/creater friendly alternative.
But how would they buy YouTube in the first place? How would Google even be what it is today without rich shareholders pumping in money for decades? Without harvesting and selling user data?
Catherine Liu pointed out how a lot of leftist spaces end up reproducing vanguards because of internal contradictions. Seems relevant for some reason....
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tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 91d
Steve@communick.news · 63 pts · 91d
Wanting a different world, doesn't mean you don't have to live in this one for now. There is no contradiction here.
gurty@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 91d
I think this is aimed more at the Hassans’ of the platform than small youtubers trying to educate and make a difference.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 10 pts · 91d
Socialism is when small youtuber, capitalism is when popular youtuber.
gurty@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 90d
Socialism is modest living and wealth redistribution, capitalism is mansion and lambo.
I know this upsets the Hasan fans, and for that I am sorry.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 5 pts · 90d
Pretty sure socialism is when government does things and communism is when government does lots of things.
gurty@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 90d
How did communism come into this?
zbyte64@awful.systems · 5 pts · 90d
I thought we were sharing comedically bad definitions of political systems.
gurty@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 89d
Riiight, okay buddy.
Bratosch@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 91d
Making a living as a YouTuber / Influencer literally depends on capitalist methods. I.e the platforms (YouTube , Instagram, etc), and producing and selling merch. The entire idea of "content creation" is capitalistic.
Steve@communick.news · 13 pts · 91d
No. Even in a socialist utopia, there'll still be "influencers" who become famous online.
Bratosch@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 91d
Famous ≠Making money. But sure, please elaborate how one would do so in a socialist Utopia. Consider me all ears
Steve@communick.news · 6 pts · 91d
Socalism is when people who work at a company, own the company, and share in the profits. But not everyone will want to do that. Some will still want to do their own thing. They'd be paid by people (viewers in this case) same as we do now.
Bratosch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
Okay, and where would they post their content?
Steve@communick.news · 4 pts · 91d
To YouTube still. Which is now owned by all the Google employees.
tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 90d
Probably not youtube, because in a truly open market with socialist rules, youtube would have fallen with its constant enshittification and be replaced with a more user/creater friendly alternative.
Bratosch@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 91d
But how would they buy YouTube in the first place? How would Google even be what it is today without rich shareholders pumping in money for decades? Without harvesting and selling user data?
hOrni@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 91d
Do people think, that in socialism You don't need to earn money?
m0darn@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 91d
Worse, they think all trade is capitalist
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 91d
Most americans think socialism = communism
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 91d
Hoes gotta eat, too.
Maroon@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 91d
zbyte64@awful.systems · 2 pts · 90d
Catherine Liu pointed out how a lot of leftist spaces end up reproducing vanguards because of internal contradictions. Seems relevant for some reason....
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 91d
buy our merch and subscribe to our patreon.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · -3 pts · 91d
I mean, a mans gotta eat. That's not a big issue.
However, champagne socialists like hassan should go eat shit
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 91d
God forbid someone spend their time helping get progressive candidates elected, real praxis is shitposting on the internet forums
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · -6 pts · 91d
Hassan is such an unlikable and stupid kid that he's more helping conservatives being elected lmao.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 91d
Projection is tough to overcome, I wish you the best