God made gay people. God made gay penguins and animals of all varieties. The only indication from God that gay is bad is from the fallible hands of man interpreting his words.
I feel pretty confident that if there is a god and it is just, then sexual orientation doesn’t even register as a concern. I say this as someone who has been outside recently and seen actual problems.
God made people
Adam and Eve ate the apple when tempted by Satan
thus introducing original sin
Animals do not have a rational soul like we do, as they were not made in His image.
Why did god make such a trap and place it within reach of his pets? Seems like really shitty pet ownership. This is the moral equivalent of having a pet rabbit and having ivy within nibble reach and then blaming the rabbit for eating the ivy.
How was it possible to have this "rationalness" prior to consuming from the tree of knowledge? They simply wouldn't know any better and have no concept of consequences. How can you actually reason without knowing shit? Sure, god told them they would die, but how would they even know what death means? The humans had no prior experience with death up to this point! No human/thing had ever died, it was just them. It would be super abstract. Ever explained death to a child without actually showing them something dead?
And how else would you describe a lesser being kept in a curated garden? Pet seems like an extremely apt term.
Also none of this excuses the omnipotent and omniscient being from being a shitty owner. Why even make the tree if they knew humans were gonna fuck with it? Were they incapable of seeing this possible future? If eating that fruit was original sin, that's a complete abdication of responsibility for: 1) creating the damn tree, 2) putting it in the garden where the human critters can get to it, and 3) creating a literal agent to psyop the humans into eating it. What a colossal fuck up for an all-powerful, all-knowing god. And that's being generous. A more balanced take is that god is fucking evil for stacking the deck against humanity and then blaming them for it, knowing full well what was going to happen.
Lucifer had the audacity to talk back and have a different idea than his father, so he was kicked out... Forever.
Kicking out family for not doing what you personally want, then being angry that a bunch of the rest of the family decides to start ignoring you as they also do their own thing. One of the most narcissistic things you could do.
That's one of the most Christian things I've ever seen. There's no hate like Christian "love".
But it's all fake stories anyway so it doesn't really matter. Even if it did... The Bible doesn't mention Lucifer being cast out at all... The Isaiah 14 passages usually referenced for that actually reference the King of Babylon.
The story of Lucifer Morningstar being cast out of heaven actually comes from the epic poem Paradise Lost, written in 1667 by John Milton.
So if you believe that story then you would have to consider John Milton in 1667 to be equivalent to the various Councils of Nicaea deciding on what would be included in the Bible.
knowledge ≠ rationalness and it wasnt PHYSICAL death, it was spiritual death.
You didn't answer the question. How can you reason without knowledge? How could adam and eve have rational souls before eating from the tree that gave them knowledge and before truly understanding the consequences?
God created satan as an angel of light, but he was corrupted by sin, especially the sin of pride
But god knew this was going to happen, right? Is god incapable of creating sinless beings? Is sin more powerful than god? Because it seems like shoddy craftsmanship to create something with a fatal flaw.
I mean, that is how the bible presents it. The tree provides the ability to distinguish between good and evil. It is a harmful oversimplification, especially when "good" and "evil" are undefined.
My user tag for you is absolutely on point, not gonna share what it is though because it'd lessen the effect somewhat.
Anyway, your inability to use basic grammar and punctuation is just so fucking perfect for the idiocy of what you write. And you not realising what an absolute fool you show everyone you are makes it even better, top tier schadenfreude.
My favorite story from the Bibble is when during the march of the penguins Hebrews to Canaan, the Hebrews got hungry and whiney. I would likely feel the same taking 40 years to get out of the desert (biblical numerology meaning why the fuck are we still in the desert Moses how do you get lost when you can see the sea and only have to march 450ish miles (at an ungenerous 5 miles per day that takes 3 months)). So YHWH sent them magical floor-bread every night. Then the Hebrews collectively rejected the concept of divine floor-bread and demanded holy floor-meat. So YHWH sent so many quail quesadillas to the Hebrew invasion march that they (and this imagery is part of the Bibble) were so full of quail that it came out their noses. I think the version I read first time said they ate quail until they vomited out they nose, all of them did it's in numbers. At... I can't remember the supposed numbers of the mythical march out of Egypt but let's say 50k-100k people (per tribe? Idk just multiply by 12 I ain't being paid to be a calculator right now) that's so much vomit.
Goofy ol YHWH. Act like you don't like his magic floor bread and he'll send quails to run around in your sinuses or whatever.
Oh most certainly I'm just pointing out that Bible literalism dies on the throne of ancient culture, another one is forty days and forty nights most likely just means a long time.
As you noted it's still got a enough kick to it that you could revive it easily.
Yes, Photoshop and GIMP can correct it before blending colors but I don't think most SVG renderers handle gradients correctly. They could add one or more intermediate colors but every byte counts if you're a AAA frontend dev.
...and then God put them on Earth where the humans live, just like everything else on flags. Are you saying that was unintentional? God made a mistake??? WHAT THE FUCK?? HANG THIS HERETIC!!!
The breadth of senseless violence caused by men with rapist tendencies goes beyond the simple act of rape. It is appalling just how many people have been harmed due to what is effectively projection from straight men.
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panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 54 pts · 84d
God made gay people. God made gay penguins and animals of all varieties. The only indication from God that gay is bad is from the fallible hands of man interpreting his words.
I don’t think God will be upset.
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 32 pts · 84d
I feel pretty confident that if there is a god and it is just, then sexual orientation doesn’t even register as a concern. I say this as someone who has been outside recently and seen actual problems.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 17 pts · 84d
Outside? In this economy?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
It was hot inside and I knew I could hide in the freezer section at the gross n grow
M137@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 83d
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
If there was a god and they were just genocides wouldn't exist.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 82d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
You are right I think their god might be a gay penguin
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · -10 pts · 84d
God made people Adam and Eve ate the apple when tempted by Satan thus introducing original sin Animals do not have a rational soul like we do, as they were not made in His image.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 83d
God also made the apple, Satan, and sin, in full knowledge of what would occur in Eden.
He's kind of a jerk
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 84d
Why did god make such a trap and place it within reach of his pets? Seems like really shitty pet ownership. This is the moral equivalent of having a pet rabbit and having ivy within nibble reach and then blaming the rabbit for eating the ivy.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · -7 pts · 83d
we arent his "pets", and we have a rational soul, so thats a false equivalence
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 83d
How was it possible to have this "rationalness" prior to consuming from the tree of knowledge? They simply wouldn't know any better and have no concept of consequences. How can you actually reason without knowing shit? Sure, god told them they would die, but how would they even know what death means? The humans had no prior experience with death up to this point! No human/thing had ever died, it was just them. It would be super abstract. Ever explained death to a child without actually showing them something dead?
And how else would you describe a lesser being kept in a curated garden? Pet seems like an extremely apt term.
Also none of this excuses the omnipotent and omniscient being from being a shitty owner. Why even make the tree if they knew humans were gonna fuck with it? Were they incapable of seeing this possible future? If eating that fruit was original sin, that's a complete abdication of responsibility for: 1) creating the damn tree, 2) putting it in the garden where the human critters can get to it, and 3) creating a literal agent to psyop the humans into eating it. What a colossal fuck up for an all-powerful, all-knowing god. And that's being generous. A more balanced take is that god is fucking evil for stacking the deck against humanity and then blaming them for it, knowing full well what was going to happen.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · -6 pts · 83d
knowledge ≠ rationalness and it wasnt PHYSICAL death, it was spiritual death.
God created satan as an angel of light, but he was corrupted by sin, especially the sin of pride
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 6 pts · 83d
Lucifer had the audacity to talk back and have a different idea than his father, so he was kicked out... Forever.
Kicking out family for not doing what you personally want, then being angry that a bunch of the rest of the family decides to start ignoring you as they also do their own thing. One of the most narcissistic things you could do.
That's one of the most Christian things I've ever seen. There's no hate like Christian "love".
But it's all fake stories anyway so it doesn't really matter. Even if it did... The Bible doesn't mention Lucifer being cast out at all... The Isaiah 14 passages usually referenced for that actually reference the King of Babylon.
The story of Lucifer Morningstar being cast out of heaven actually comes from the epic poem Paradise Lost, written in 1667 by John Milton.
So if you believe that story then you would have to consider John Milton in 1667 to be equivalent to the various Councils of Nicaea deciding on what would be included in the Bible.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · -3 pts · 83d
Satan had the audacity to try to stab his father and steal the kingdom of Heaven, got cast down to the abyss
Revelation 12:7-9
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
You didn't answer the question. How can you reason without knowledge? How could adam and eve have rational souls before eating from the tree that gave them knowledge and before truly understanding the consequences?
But god knew this was going to happen, right? Is god incapable of creating sinless beings? Is sin more powerful than god? Because it seems like shoddy craftsmanship to create something with a fatal flaw.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 83d
glimse@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
What is a rational soul and why don't animals have them?
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · -2 pts · 83d
a soul that can choose between Good and evil, nonhumans werent created in the image of God, so they dont have it
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
What God says is evil in the Bible is not in actuality evil, especially considering that the God of the Bible is evil.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 83d
You can't divide morality in only good and evil. That's dumb.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 0 pts · 83d
sorry, I oversimplified it
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 24d
I mean, that is how the bible presents it. The tree provides the ability to distinguish between good and evil. It is a harmful oversimplification, especially when "good" and "evil" are undefined.
glimse@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
So is evil defined by intention? Gay penguins aren't evil because they aren't choosing to be gay?
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
Evil is defined by God (in Bible).
So... being gay is evil, being disobedient to parents is evil, being Hindi is evil, and so on.
It's pretty detached from "evil" as it is known today (or then for that matter).
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · -2 pts · 83d
they simply do not have a rational soul.
glimse@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
I'm not so sure humans do either given the state of the world
criticon@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 84d
What apple?
M137@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 83d
My user tag for you is absolutely on point, not gonna share what it is though because it'd lessen the effect somewhat.
Anyway, your inability to use basic grammar and punctuation is just so fucking perfect for the idiocy of what you write. And you not realising what an absolute fool you show everyone you are makes it even better, top tier schadenfreude.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · -2 pts · 83d
i
try
to
write
in
columns
but lemmy obliterates all the spaces
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 83d
*sneck
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 28 pts · 83d
Having shit stolen from you when you're supposedly all powerful. That's just sad.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 83d
Christians. Making God seem like a massive asshole for millennia.
And God not smiting them.
Maybe "he" is an asshole.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
TBF if you've read any of the old testament, god is a total asshole and always was.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
My favorite story from the Bibble is when during the march of the
penguinsHebrews to Canaan, the Hebrews got hungry and whiney. I would likely feel the same taking 40 years to get out of the desert (biblical numerology meaning why the fuck are we still in the desert Moses how do you get lost when you can see the sea and only have to march 450ish miles (at an ungenerous 5 miles per day that takes 3 months)). So YHWH sent them magical floor-bread every night. Then the Hebrews collectively rejected the concept of divine floor-bread and demanded holy floor-meat. So YHWH sent so many quail quesadillas to the Hebrew invasion march that they (and this imagery is part of the Bibble) were so full of quail that it came out their noses. I think the version I read first time said they ate quail until they vomited out they nose, all of them did it's in numbers. At... I can't remember the supposed numbers of the mythical march out of Egypt but let's say 50k-100k people (per tribe? Idk just multiply by 12 I ain't being paid to be a calculator right now) that's so much vomit.Goofy ol YHWH. Act like you don't like his magic floor bread and he'll send quails to run around in your sinuses or whatever.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 82d
So the quail thing almost sounds like a badly translated saying or folk term. Like raining cats and dogs for comparison.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
Yeah but it's a great saying. I'm full up to my nose of this food I ate so much.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 82d
Oh most certainly I'm just pointing out that Bible literalism dies on the throne of ancient culture, another one is forty days and forty nights most likely just means a long time.
As you noted it's still got a enough kick to it that you could revive it easily.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
It's not God's job to smite assholes. Not a Christian btw.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 82d
Yeah he much prefers to fuck with random dudes, see the book of Job for further reference.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
Again, not a Christian. As far as Christianity is considered, I see the son as the closest to God, definitely not the father.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Yeah yeah we know it's yours and your pet dragon
Ashiette@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 83d
Minions ! Tonight we steal... the Rainbow !
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 84d
What DOES God need with a
starshiprainbow anyway?Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 83d
The one scene from the movie why I can't dislike it.
This and some of the physical comedy makes me chuckle. I'm a simple person.
Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one · 11 pts · 84d
Isn't the rainbow a promise that god wouldn't kill a lot of people in the future? Seems like god gave the rainbow to just the right people.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
The promise was He wouldn't kill them by flood.
He will kill all of them when Jesus returns, though... by fire, plague, giant man-faced scorpions, and so on.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 83d
God moves in mysterious ways like Kinky Steve at the BDSM club.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Can I quote you on this one? You worded it perfectly
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
Like how coyote stole fire
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
That was coyote? I've been blaming my cat.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
It might have been gayote. idk.
binux@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 84d
Obligatory Dan Hentschel post
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 82d
God gave humanity the rainbow, we'll do what we want with it.
shininghero@pawb.social · 6 pts · 84d
Wrong, we stole it from a leprechaun's pot of gold.
With a little help from a slightly... unhinged barbarian, of course.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Like cauldron pot or weed pot, because I've had some joints that shit rainbows out of them
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 84d
Fun fact: the rainbow is seven colors, the pride flag is six (It lacks indigo).
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
The color Indigo does not exist. It is a deep state plot to get us to like people named Roy
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 6 pts · 82d
God's rainbow was different, it had a gradient like all those fucking apps with shitty AI integration
rain_worl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 80d
eww eww uugh the red-blue mixing sucks so bad have they never heard of colors before???
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 80d
Very common problem.
Computer Color is Broken - minutephysics (04:14)
TL;DW: Most software is too lazy to correct gamma.
Yes, Photoshop and GIMP can correct it before blending colors but I don't think most SVG renderers handle gradients correctly. They could add one or more intermediate colors but every byte counts if you're a AAA frontend dev.
rain_worl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 80d
yeah i know, gamma is the initial of my middle name
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 80d
You're Greek? Or Eastern Slavic? (the Cyrillic Ge looks the same in uppercase)
rain_worl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 80d
(joking)
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 83d
Why would they care about he rainbow when they do only black and and white thinking?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
It is the big gay fault the straights black and white think. If the straights still had a rainbow
SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 82d
The whole fucking color spectrum? Lmao
lena@gregtech.eu · 5 pts · 83d
We stole the rainbow like Prometheus stole fire from the gods.
CyberneticOwl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
Pronountheus? Maybe Polymetheus? Hmm
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
I think he was named well
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
...and then God put them on Earth where the humans live, just like everything else on flags. Are you saying that was unintentional? God made a mistake??? WHAT THE FUCK?? HANG THIS HERETIC!!!
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 82d
Old people raving about religious crap should be committed to a home and not allowed to drive or vote.
Exatron@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
Preferably Shady Pines
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
Religious persecution is a slippery slope. But what a ride it would be.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 82d
Solution: keep your imaginary sky goblins to yourself.
Grimy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
I wonder if seeing natural rainbows ruins their day.
joe@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 82d
I guess some of you guys want to dispute this whole thing, but I'll gladly accept the accolade of stole the rainbow from god.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 82d
This is my favorite alt-right move.
“Racism/sexism/cultural appropriation/systemic inequality doesn’t exist, but if it did, hetero white Christian American men would be the victims.”
Zombie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 84d
Sounds like that "all powerful" God ain't so powerful after all.
Could there perhaps be some flaws in this religion's teachings?... Hmm...
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 83d
The breadth of senseless violence caused by men with rapist tendencies goes beyond the simple act of rape. It is appalling just how many people have been harmed due to what is effectively projection from straight men.