I feel like, if they were being thorough, they would've mentioned the game that came out before PoGo, Ingress, that populated most of the initial points of interest.
Still, I think the location scanning isn't as valuable as the pathing data they've been collecting. Besides, Google Maps has images of the majority of these scans anyway. But walking path data from millions of players for years is valuable for routing delivery paths.
Eh, I think its exppress purpose is delivery bots, and authoritative control is a happy accident. I'm cynical enough to see it foremost as corporate greed.
We live in a country that Ring advertised mass surveillance systems as a Superbowl ad for finding lost dogs.
Delivering food has never been about food. It's extremely unprofitable. It's always been about normalizing and optimizing oppressive systems of gig work; and destroying the ability of the working class to face their bosses or even their coworkers.
I did actually play a bit of Ingress back in the day. I was one of two players in my entire neighborhood. Was never interested in PokemonGo tho. I think anything Pokemon is straight ass nowadays.
fyi you can game these scans pretty easily at least in ingress
record the ground while moving the phone from time to time just so that the video is not too static
We often advise not to do scan research in our local community bc in addition to how long it takes, the next research task you get will always be to scan another POI, and if anything has physically changed about the POI the chances are high it’ll be removed from the game.
When you get a field research task to scan a specified stop, they want you to go to that POI, select its stop in game and use one of the corner buttons on the disk spin screen to open your camera and slowly do a 360 walk around it with the POI in frame. You then have to upload the scan. This video outlines the process pretty well https://youtu.be/zL1dCwnd7Fc
Just learned these shouldn’t appear until you hit At least lvl 37
Oh joy, and here I thought that this was going to be about how they're more perceptive of their own environment or that kind of thing, you know, something cool, something positive, but that's what I get for not reading the community this is posted from first ;___;
i should say that i'm surprised, but i'm not. it's the same scan as instagram. they sell you whatever kind of attention that you think that you're getting. they take your data, they know your face, what you look like, where you move, everything. because people are dumb enough to film everything all the time and upload it to instagram. facebook has the data, the CIA has the data, trump has the data. if you want to organize any kind of political organization, well, you better hope that they don't decide to bite your ass, because they definitely have the data to do so.
I'm not sure if consumer maps incorporate any of this. It's really for Amazon delivery robots. Players show where its possible/preferable to walk, so non-car drones know where they can go and the fastest way to get there.
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Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 90 pts · 78d
I feel like, if they were being thorough, they would've mentioned the game that came out before PoGo, Ingress, that populated most of the initial points of interest.
gedfromgont@piefed.ca · 30 pts · 78d
Sure, but nobody knows what "an ingress" is but almost everyone has heard of Pokemon. I'd also assume the size of the player base is not comparable.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 78d
Not by a long shot even at Ingress' peak.
Still, I think the location scanning isn't as valuable as the pathing data they've been collecting. Besides, Google Maps has images of the majority of these scans anyway. But walking path data from millions of players for years is valuable for routing delivery paths.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 78d
FTFY. Crowd control.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 78d
Eh, I think its exppress purpose is delivery bots, and authoritative control is a happy accident. I'm cynical enough to see it foremost as corporate greed.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 78d
We live in a country that Ring advertised mass surveillance systems as a Superbowl ad for finding lost dogs.
Delivering food has never been about food. It's extremely unprofitable. It's always been about normalizing and optimizing oppressive systems of gig work; and destroying the ability of the working class to face their bosses or even their coworkers.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 78d
Google maps has images of streets, they don’t have images of the middle of a park or the middle of a Hospital lobby.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 5 pts · 78d
I did actually play a bit of Ingress back in the day. I was one of two players in my entire neighborhood. Was never interested in PokemonGo tho. I think anything Pokemon is straight ass nowadays.
RichardNixos@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 78d
Best Pokemon right now is Celia's Stupid Romhack
ark3@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 78d
fyi you can game these scans pretty easily at least in ingress
record the ground while moving the phone from time to time just so that the video is not too static
Mac@mander.xyz · 53 pts · 78d
- Niantic
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 78d
Is there any source for this besides a jpeg?
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 47 pts · 78d
https://tvpworld.com/93715244/trouw-niantic-spatial-used-pokmon-go-data-to-train-navigation-system-for-drones
https://www.trouw.nl/redactie/PokemonGo/
Triumph@fedia.io · 36 pts · 78d
I'm not going to trust news from a Textured Vegetable Protein site.
Kovukono@pawb.social · 38 pts · 78d
Drone enthusiast website
MIT Tech Review on how Niantic made an AI spinoff company that helps robots navigate urban areas without GPS if necessary
EuroNews article citing said MIT article about how Niantic has a different partner, Cocorobot, that's training on their data
SpaceNews article on how Vantor is using this data to allow drones to navigate without requiring GPS
Vantor's official announcement that they are using Niantic's data to create "a comprehensive air-to-ground positioning solution that will enable air and ground platforms to navigate and coordinate precisely in GPS-denied environments"
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 78d
Fair enough, I just had a Lemmy post with this link just above
Starik@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 78d
Seriously.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 78d
Technology under capitalism, in one paragraph.
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 25 pts · 78d
As someone whose SO played the game for years and as a result has a friend group who also played it.
Fun fact: it's not worth as much as they think it is.
Fucking no one does the scanning quests. You get one and let it sit there unfinished because they take too long too do.
tophneal@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 78d
We often advise not to do scan research in our local community bc in addition to how long it takes, the next research task you get will always be to scan another POI, and if anything has physically changed about the POI the chances are high it’ll be removed from the game.
Crescent@fedinsfw.app · 3 pts · 78d
As someone who stopped playing 2 months after release, what are scanning tasks?
tophneal@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 78d
When you get a field research task to scan a specified stop, they want you to go to that POI, select its stop in game and use one of the corner buttons on the disk spin screen to open your camera and slowly do a 360 walk around it with the POI in frame. You then have to upload the scan. This video outlines the process pretty well https://youtu.be/zL1dCwnd7Fc
Just learned these shouldn’t appear until you hit At least lvl 37
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 2 pts · 78d
The one that might be useful is routes, as that provides a lot of real life path tracking by people going from A to B along a preset route.
And those are heavily used.
EisFrei@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 78d
I had my very first scan task for years until a few days ago. Then it just vanished and I haven't gotten a new one, yet.
Niantic might be in damage control mode.
tophneal@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 78d
Good. They’re annoying. I just resigned to leaving one in my research list, never to be done and never to be replaced by another lol
IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 78d
We are cattle.
KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 78d
Oh how I wish the West had not Pokémon Gone down the root of military-industrial fascism...........
purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 78d
Oh joy, and here I thought that this was going to be about how they're more perceptive of their own environment or that kind of thing, you know, something cool, something positive, but that's what I get for not reading the community this is posted from first ;___;
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 8 pts · 78d
i should say that i'm surprised, but i'm not. it's the same scan as instagram. they sell you whatever kind of attention that you think that you're getting. they take your data, they know your face, what you look like, where you move, everything. because people are dumb enough to film everything all the time and upload it to instagram. facebook has the data, the CIA has the data, trump has the data. if you want to organize any kind of political organization, well, you better hope that they don't decide to bite your ass, because they definitely have the data to do so.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 78d
Ender'sKetchum's GameDatz@szmer.info · 5 pts · 78d
This is close to being good news though. Imagine using that data for navigation and updated maps.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 78d
I'm not sure if consumer maps incorporate any of this. It's really for Amazon delivery robots. Players show where its possible/preferable to walk, so non-car drones know where they can go and the fastest way to get there.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 78d
So many military drones bombing parks and malls in the suburbs.
RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 78d
Not yet
guy@piefed.social · -2 pts · 78d
An extremely precise navigation system that can be used. It's not for military drones.