"Now that the conference is over, the damage is done, and these people no longer pose a threat, I'd like to express how sorry I am and hope we can all move past this."
They never lost their jobs. They were banned from the conference which is something hard to put a damage number on. They probably won't sue the org because they remain part of it and are unlikely to want to take any real money from it that can otherwise continue going to helping diabetes research and advocacy. Maybe they can get a future conference paid for. They're all relatively established in their careers.
The easiest damages would be the cost of attending (conference tickets, travel, hotel). If there was reputational damage, that's harder to prove but the conference could be liable for that. Seeing how many vocal supporters they have, reputational damage would be hard to prove
I lived in rural Idaho during the Obama years. The amount of times I had to listen to grown ass men fantasize about shooting or lynching the President was insane. Constant racist and derogatory statements.
My grade school girls reported the boys on their bus would also talk about racist things all the time including killing Obama. The kid that won the Kiwanis award at school made a joke about not being black and the whole school assembly laughed.
But as soon as their mango god king took power, just like Bush before him, it was suddenly disloyal to talk shit. Hell, you would lose your job for it and probably get a visit by the secret service.
The scientists were ejected for handing out copies of an April editorial—published in the ADA’s own journal Diabetes Care—that sharply criticizes the Trump administration for the damage and destruction it’s wreaking on biomedical research. The five scientists included Steven Kahn, professor of medicine at the University of Washington, who is the editor-in-chief of Diabetes Care and a co-author of the editorial. It also included former ADA President Desmond Schatz of the University of Florida.
Whatta buncha maroons. Just for that I’m not gonna get the diabeetus.
“What transpired is not reflective of who I am, the values I hold, or the way I was raised,” [ADA CEO] Henderson said. “I will work hard to bring our community back together to build on the progress we have collectively made for those affected by diabetes.”
Jesus, he sounds like a pro athlete who got arrested for drunk driving.
So often this sort of thing makes sense because it's conduct or disruption that are reasons they got kicked out. The topic could be , but a clickbait title will latch onto that topic if it could be edgy....
The scientists were ejected for handing out copies of an April editorial
........yup. Well, obviously this isn't one of those times.
OTOH assumptions are cheap too, and I would venture to guess nobody in this thread knows anything about the hierarchy of the ADA, its most influencial insiders or their motives. We tend to shape those things according to the picture that satisfies us the most, and usually make it the simplest picture that invites the most hate. And saying this isn't an excuse or apologism, it's just staying open to improvement.
edit: And yeah, based on the douchevotes people seem to be taking my comment as support for the ADA, which it is not - they were definitely wrong to kick those guys out. Just saying all we know is what's in the article, and people who do the wrong thing can still eventually do the right thing if they're motivated.
I agree the result is fair game, but "They weren't kicked out by mistake" is theorizing about backstage shenanigans in an organization that until now hasn't exactly been known for evil. I mean it's not politicians it's scientists trying to cure diabetes.
33 Comments
db2@lemmy.world · 152 pts · 82d
And yet. Your words fall pretty flat Mr Henderson when your actions are telling a very different story.
BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 82d
Would he have said anything at all or apologized if he wasn't called out? I doubt it.
crimson_iris@piefed.social · 15 pts · 81d
He's not sorry he did it, he's just sorry he got caught.
LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Is this a real quote from the Matrix?
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 90 pts · 82d
"Now that the conference is over, the damage is done, and these people no longer pose a threat, I'd like to express how sorry I am and hope we can all move past this."
BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works · 68 pts · 82d
Are they gonna get their positions back? Or some kind of compensation? If not that's a pretty shit apology
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 82d
They never lost their jobs. They were banned from the conference which is something hard to put a damage number on. They probably won't sue the org because they remain part of it and are unlikely to want to take any real money from it that can otherwise continue going to helping diabetes research and advocacy. Maybe they can get a future conference paid for. They're all relatively established in their careers.
davad@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 82d
The easiest damages would be the cost of attending (conference tickets, travel, hotel). If there was reputational damage, that's harder to prove but the conference could be liable for that. Seeing how many vocal supporters they have, reputational damage would be hard to prove
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 81d
Damage? This might have invoked the Streisand effect.
davad@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Yup
Khanzarate@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 82d
Did they lose their positions? I haven't read anything indicating that, just that they weren't allowed back into the conference.
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social · 58 pts · 82d
Everyone should criticise the POTUS, like a requirement.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 82d
Literally why we have the 1st Amendment.
girthero@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 81d
The American way! Even George Washington got shit!
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 81d
I lived in rural Idaho during the Obama years. The amount of times I had to listen to grown ass men fantasize about shooting or lynching the President was insane. Constant racist and derogatory statements.
My grade school girls reported the boys on their bus would also talk about racist things all the time including killing Obama. The kid that won the Kiwanis award at school made a joke about not being black and the whole school assembly laughed.
But as soon as their mango god king took power, just like Bush before him, it was suddenly disloyal to talk shit. Hell, you would lose your job for it and probably get a visit by the secret service.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 82d
Whatta buncha maroons. Just for that I’m not gonna get the diabeetus.
tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 82d
Please fire everyone who did not criticize POTUS.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
diaPOTUS
wjrii@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 82d
Jesus, he sounds like a pro athlete who got arrested for drunk driving.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 82d
Too little, too late. I'm eating nothing but sugar from now on.
vegeta@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 82d
Their poster boy was a staunch Republican
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 82d
And he died. If you have diabeetus, think again (about being a republican).
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 81d
Well it is in the name. Die-a-beetus
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 81d
I hope someone is researching how to give people liveabeetus. Wilford Brimley might be too far gone though by now.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 82d
So often this sort of thing makes sense because it's conduct or disruption that are reasons they got kicked out. The topic could be , but a clickbait title will latch onto that topic if it could be edgy....
........yup. Well, obviously this isn't one of those times.
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 81d
Ada sucks. It's a support group.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 82d
The apology is a start. Followthrough is expected.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 9 pts · 82d
Exactly. Apologies are cheap. They weren't kicked out by mistake.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 82d
OTOH assumptions are cheap too, and I would venture to guess nobody in this thread knows anything about the hierarchy of the ADA, its most influencial insiders or their motives. We tend to shape those things according to the picture that satisfies us the most, and usually make it the simplest picture that invites the most hate. And saying this isn't an excuse or apologism, it's just staying open to improvement.
edit: And yeah, based on the douchevotes people seem to be taking my comment as support for the ADA, which it is not - they were definitely wrong to kick those guys out. Just saying all we know is what's in the article, and people who do the wrong thing can still eventually do the right thing if they're motivated.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 81d
Whether we do or don't, criticizing the end result of the ADA's structure is fair game.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
I agree the result is fair game, but "They weren't kicked out by mistake" is theorizing about backstage shenanigans in an organization that until now hasn't exactly been known for evil. I mean it's not politicians it's scientists trying to cure diabetes.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 5 pts · 81d
How is it "theorizing about backstage shenanigans"? They were kicked out for handing out those leaflets, not stealing lunches from the company fridge.
raynethackery@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 81d
Must be losing donations.