Trump is the worst it's been, but I can't remember a time when things were good. It's been one crisis to the next.
I think there's been maybe a 5 year period where the US wasn't in a major conflict, and even then we were bombing random countries. After 08 the economy has basically always felt on the brink of collapse. Wages stagnate, housing is unaffordable, and basically every "ladder" to a better life it gone. Sprinkle in the impending climate collapse and yeah that's been basically life.
It's disingenuous to act like anything was even okay before Trump. He's just the final stage of a decades long collapse
We were generally pretty smart about what we were doing. Even Iraq, I think the idea was to overthrow a brutal dictator (we all agree he was, right?) and liberate a country in the middle east that would be friendly and allow us to be less dependent on Israel and the Saudis.
I protested against that war, but it was certainly a hell of a lot smarter than threatening Greenland or Mexico.
Despite all the memes, compared to the average person, W was reasonably smart. Maybe not on the scale of presidents. And evil or not, the people in his cabinet were pretty smart. Dick Cheney might have been evil, but he wasn't a fucking idiot.
We've had our issues and we've had our strengths, but we've never been this fucking dumb on a federal level. We're literally taking advice from Putin.
This is the first time we've had a president who doesn't realize that he's in the same boat as the rest of us. Might have a better cabin on that boat, but if he sinks it... and Putin is whispering in his ear that it'd be fun to sink the boat.
Iraq was about oil and the fact that that Iraq was going to switch away from the dollar to the Euro. You protested but never bothered to learn the real reasons why it happened. The fact that Saddam was a POS is not relevent since the same can be said about most of the despots in the region. All thats changed now is that they are saying the quiet parts out loud.
Jesus christ, lol. No man, you massacred millions of middle easterners, before that you genocided Korea, and did ethnic cleansing in Vietnam. Let's not forget Cambodia, Laos, Libya, Syria, and Yemen. Currently Lebanon and Iran. Gaza. Millions of innocent dead civilians. Tens of millions. Fuck your fascist state and the propaganda you rode in on.
No, you fucking moron. America killed over a fifth of the population of Korea and destroyed 95% of the structures there. It was quite literally genocide. I suggest you do some reading on the topic of how many civilians America has killed in the last 75 years before you make yourself look stupid again.
We just got the world’s first trillionaire, so people might not be impressed with numbers in the millions anymore. Try something like “America raped and genocided billions of Iraqis!” Rape is also a popular buzzword today.
I take your point, but Trump is the culmination of 40 years of austerity, wealth inequality, and dog whistling. To extend the visual metaphor, we first noticed the ship listing during Trump, but we'd been taking on water since Reagan.
It was all about shifting the Overton window. The establishment, corporate Republicans realized that if they just go a little farther and pull from the full on Nazi side that the middle would be very close to what they actually want.
The thing about creating a movement like that is that you bring on True Believers, and it becomes hard to tell the difference. They didn't intend for that contingent to actually drive, but they paved the path and all :shocked Pikachu: when he grabbed the wheel.
I still hold that he gets absolutely nowhere without Putin's help. I watched r/the_donald from the start. It was a brilliant demonstration of the mix of humor and censorship as propaganda.
They didn't intend for that contingent to actually drive, but they paved the path and all :shocked Pikachu: when he grabbed the wheel.
Yeah, more or less. I don't think the Republican elites ever disagreed with the racist resentment politics they'd been peddling, but they intended them to be a means to enact tax breaks for the wealthy and wage wars. They never expected the base to elect someone who made racism the focus.
I still hold that he gets absolutely nowhere without Putin's help.
Not sure I agree. Russian interference certainly helped, but the economic conditions in the country are ripe for fascism. He might have won without foriegn interference, and if he didn't, we might be facing a more popular, more competent fascist right now.
we were taking the ship apart before trump causing it to sink while others tried to fix it but under trump he is trying to get rid of the water by drilling as many holes as he can so it can drain out.
It’s not accurate, there’s not enough dead brown people and guns and the water’s not covered in oil and there’s not a giant yacht zooming in the other direction, away from this disaster.
Wait I think I know this boat. I am pretty sure it is a sunk boat in miami that was there for a really long time. A lot of people used to go canoe over to it and take pictures.
The one on the left looks like she would get offended if you pointed out the reality that the ship is sinking instead of going along with the delusion.
Like a magician accidentally revealing their own secret mid trick and getting mad if you don't pretend to be baffled at how they just sawed that lady in half and put her right back together.
You ever been just sitting in the living room watching TV with your friends/family and look around and notice we're all just staring at screens like zombies? Just day after day of staring at screens, thinking you're doing something but you're not really doing anything? TVs, phones, tablets, monitors. Just screen after screen after screen...
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Malyca@lemmy.zip · 74 pts · 81d
I went to a concert last night and it was surreal. We're just going to sit here and let the train hit us and the world. Mass delusion.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 81d
Television affects people’s thinking.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · 30 pts · 81d
Oh come on, TV is so 60's-90's complaints. These days it's TikTok and YouTube rotting minds.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Certainly. Nobody listened in the 60s-90s either.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 81d
Shindo66@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 80d
The algorithm knows all, all hail the algorithm
lobut@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 81d
Bread and circuses.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 81d
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 81d
I've been overruled for now
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 81d
So you believe you're part of the problem then? Or is it just everyone else who is delusional?
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 81d
I'm absolutely part of the problem
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 81d
You get used to it when it’s been sinking since before you were born.
Serinus@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 81d
It's disingenuous to equate pre-trump with post-trump.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 81d
Bruh.
Reagan.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 81d
Bruh, Nixon.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 81d
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 80d
Don't forget chattel slavery!
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 81d
Dude, Wilson.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 81d
Bruh.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 81d
Trump is the worst it's been, but I can't remember a time when things were good. It's been one crisis to the next.
I think there's been maybe a 5 year period where the US wasn't in a major conflict, and even then we were bombing random countries. After 08 the economy has basically always felt on the brink of collapse. Wages stagnate, housing is unaffordable, and basically every "ladder" to a better life it gone. Sprinkle in the impending climate collapse and yeah that's been basically life.
It's disingenuous to act like anything was even okay before Trump. He's just the final stage of a decades long collapse
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 81d
What, in your mind, changed? To an outsider, the only real difference is that the mask is off now.
Serinus@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 81d
We were generally pretty smart about what we were doing. Even Iraq, I think the idea was to overthrow a brutal dictator (we all agree he was, right?) and liberate a country in the middle east that would be friendly and allow us to be less dependent on Israel and the Saudis.
I protested against that war, but it was certainly a hell of a lot smarter than threatening Greenland or Mexico.
Despite all the memes, compared to the average person, W was reasonably smart. Maybe not on the scale of presidents. And evil or not, the people in his cabinet were pretty smart. Dick Cheney might have been evil, but he wasn't a fucking idiot.
We've had our issues and we've had our strengths, but we've never been this fucking dumb on a federal level. We're literally taking advice from Putin.
This is the first time we've had a president who doesn't realize that he's in the same boat as the rest of us. Might have a better cabin on that boat, but if he sinks it... and Putin is whispering in his ear that it'd be fun to sink the boat.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 81d
Iraq was about oil and the fact that that Iraq was going to switch away from the dollar to the Euro. You protested but never bothered to learn the real reasons why it happened. The fact that Saddam was a POS is not relevent since the same can be said about most of the despots in the region. All thats changed now is that they are saying the quiet parts out loud.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 81d
Jesus christ, lol. No man, you massacred millions of middle easterners, before that you genocided Korea, and did ethnic cleansing in Vietnam. Let's not forget Cambodia, Laos, Libya, Syria, and Yemen. Currently Lebanon and Iran. Gaza. Millions of innocent dead civilians. Tens of millions. Fuck your fascist state and the propaganda you rode in on.
Starik@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 80d
Why the hyperbole? Isn’t the truth bad enough? Must thousands be millions, and every war a genocide?
quarkquasar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 80d
Starik@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 80d
None. How useful are straw man arguments, in your opinion?
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 80d
No, you fucking moron. America killed over a fifth of the population of Korea and destroyed 95% of the structures there. It was quite literally genocide. I suggest you do some reading on the topic of how many civilians America has killed in the last 75 years before you make yourself look stupid again.
Starik@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 80d
We just got the world’s first trillionaire, so people might not be impressed with numbers in the millions anymore. Try something like “America raped and genocided billions of Iraqis!” Rape is also a popular buzzword today.
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 81d
I take your point, but Trump is the culmination of 40 years of austerity, wealth inequality, and dog whistling. To extend the visual metaphor, we first noticed the ship listing during Trump, but we'd been taking on water since Reagan.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 81d
It was all about shifting the Overton window. The establishment, corporate Republicans realized that if they just go a little farther and pull from the full on Nazi side that the middle would be very close to what they actually want.
The thing about creating a movement like that is that you bring on True Believers, and it becomes hard to tell the difference. They didn't intend for that contingent to actually drive, but they paved the path and all :shocked Pikachu: when he grabbed the wheel.
I still hold that he gets absolutely nowhere without Putin's help. I watched r/the_donald from the start. It was a brilliant demonstration of the mix of humor and censorship as propaganda.
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Yeah, more or less. I don't think the Republican elites ever disagreed with the racist resentment politics they'd been peddling, but they intended them to be a means to enact tax breaks for the wealthy and wage wars. They never expected the base to elect someone who made racism the focus.
Not sure I agree. Russian interference certainly helped, but the economic conditions in the country are ripe for fascism. He might have won without foriegn interference, and if he didn't, we might be facing a more popular, more competent fascist right now.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 80d
we were taking the ship apart before trump causing it to sink while others tried to fix it but under trump he is trying to get rid of the water by drilling as many holes as he can so it can drain out.
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 6 pts · 81d
Lol someone doesn't know American history.
Rakonat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
Trump is only accelerating what Reagan started and if you want to be cynical it's been going on since Nixon.
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 81d
no captain, accurate
Klear@piefed.world · 23 pts · 81d
That captain is sleeping. No, don't wake him up! That's when he messes up the least.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 81d
The captain is coming down from coke and aggresively steering the ship in ajy way that will get him more
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 81d
All of the captains that there ever were are war criminals and should be tried and hanged at the Hague.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 81d
It’s not accurate, there’s not enough dead brown people and guns and the water’s not covered in oil and there’s not a giant yacht zooming in the other direction, away from this disaster.
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 81d
that's fair
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
The water is a metaphor for many things including but not limited to dead brown people, guns, pollution, and billionaires.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
Thank you for explaining this to me, I understand now.
mrmisses@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 81d
The women also need to be reaching 300lbs
Edit: Hey the average weight of American women is 170.8 lbs. Sure 300lb is exaggerating but that means there are a lot much heavier.
Downvote away, that's what people think of us for good reason
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 81d
Body shaming is pretty unpopular on Lemmy.
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 81d
I thought we were American shaming
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 81d
There's better ways to do it.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Like using Facebook and Reddit and Fox News and podcaster propaganda to get a bumbling idiot elected.
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 81d
it was my initial thought at least
mrodri89@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 81d
yakko@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 81d
It will wherever you end up, don't put that on yourself.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 81d
Wait I think I know this boat. I am pretty sure it is a sunk boat in miami that was there for a really long time. A lot of people used to go canoe over to it and take pictures.
fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip · 5 pts · 81d
there was a similar situation near Beaufort SC where a decently large catamaran from the 80s was anchored out in the bay for years.
old empty boat. big enough for a large galley and other rooms
i hopped up on it in the daytime a few times. it was crazy
oxideseven@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 81d
Yup. I've been there. There was an older nastier one in Palm Beach too. But not nearly the tourist trap as this one
Zorque@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
Kind of like all the people who comment on the state of the world but never really do anything about it.
Rothe@piefed.social · 16 pts · 81d
Bread and circus. No bread, but a whole lot of circus to keep people occupied while they go under.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 81d
Epstein holding the camera
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 81d
They look like adults.
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 81d
can’t even afford clothes
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 81d
…that’s fair
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 81d
The one on the left looks like she would get offended if you pointed out the reality that the ship is sinking instead of going along with the delusion.
Like a magician accidentally revealing their own secret mid trick and getting mad if you don't pretend to be baffled at how they just sawed that lady in half and put her right back together.
Darthcapi@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 81d
Steve@startrek.website · 4 pts · 81d
That boat is probably sitting on the bottom. America still has farther to fall, believe it or not.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
Oh we just gettin started baby
UpAndAtThem@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 81d
But, USA is winning at soccer right now, wooooo! 🥖🤡
noxypaws@pawb.social · 3 pts · 80d
whole fucking world right now.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 80d
The worst part? It was an electric boat and they had to choose between being electrocuted by the battery and being eaten by sharks
krisevol@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 80d
You're not too experienced with electricity huh
quarkquasar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 80d
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 80d
It's the second time I reference that Trump bit and I am shocked by how few remember it. He said it so many times too.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 80d
This one sums it up pretty well. Some peoples feet are wet and some are not but we are not ourselves underwater so we pretend we are not sinking.
DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 81d
You ever been just sitting in the living room watching TV with your friends/family and look around and notice we're all just staring at screens like zombies? Just day after day of staring at screens, thinking you're doing something but you're not really doing anything? TVs, phones, tablets, monitors. Just screen after screen after screen...
That's what they want.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
speak for yourself, I'm hoarding all the data I can store for the inevitable collapse of the internet.
reminds me, I need to buy more bluray discs.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 81d
Please add 50lbs each to make this more believable lievable as "Americans"