UK Introduces Full Social Media Ban For Under 16s - Including Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and X.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/social-media-to-be-banned-for-under-16s-in-landmark-government-move-to-givekids-their-childhood-back
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NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 62d
Starmer really couldn’t be any more of a useless fucking prick.
Btw they already have this here in Australia and the kids have graduated to meeting for machete battles in shopping centres now that talking things out is banned.
RustySharp@programming.dev · 1 pts · 62d
Ehhh... The sharp implement battles have kinda always been there. Knifepoint didn't earn it's nickname for nothing.
And the kids have graduated to using VPN; which I believe has always been the endgame for the govt. How many times have they tried to ban encryption?
"The laws of mathematics is well and good, but we respect the laws of Australia here" - Some knob that somehow managed to become PM
Naich@piefed.world · 10 pts · 62d
I feel safer already, and I'm 59. Thanks Keir!
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 62d
Right this is all about old people feeling safe, it has NOTHING to do with reality and it is shocking people like you are aggressively willing to endorse the destruction of things that were vital lifelines for people just because it gives you good feelings.
edit I took the sarcasm bait hook line and sinker lol
Naich@piefed.world · 8 pts · 62d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 62d
My bad, that was actually a great sarcastic comment, it is just so many older people have said almost that exact same thing to me in total seriousness about equally stupid shit that doesn't effect them/actively hurts them and only hurts others but their heart of hearts wanted... that I was unable to realize this was the unicorn moment.
To be honest, that kind of thinking typifies that generation so.... you gotta include a /s lol.
tal@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 62d
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/youth-voters-labour-election_uk_69e86af8e4b0fa6ffe8ffa5a
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/representation-of-the-people-bill-policy-summaries/votes-at-16
I'm not sure that these are necessarily the most-advantageous policies for Labour to adopt in conjunction with each other, but I suppose that we will see how it works out.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 62d
Wildly undemocratic.
username_1@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 62d
YouTube is... social? I thought it was just a pile of videos.
raman_klogius@ani.social · 8 pts · 62d
if only there's a kids version of it... that somehow has even more addictive algorithm than the adult version...
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 62d
It has a comment feature
username_1@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 62d
Almost anything has comments. Even the shops with potatoes and socks.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 62d
Which is why these kinds of bans will always be extremely inconsistent, ineffective and ultimately only harmful to the people who cannot get around the bullshit blocks that the vast majority of kids simply circumvent.
So the kids with tech savy parents get to learn how to access the internet and get all those benefits, but kids who grow up without techy parents are thrown to the dogs, sounds fair!
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 62d
Occasionally I think it’s weird how it used to just be this place to upload random videos for people to see, and now it’s all pricks with pencil mustaches narrating into a light ring and building a “brand”, and adverts and paid promotions. I think the last thing I bothered to upload was some idiots in armour battering the shit out of each other in a field.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 62d
Hopefully it's the same as Australia where they name specific sites and not generic unclear definitions like the OSA
GiveOver@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 62d
Extremely happy with this one. I understand everyone's worries about surveillance and all that, and I agree with a lot of it, but I think in this case it's worth it. Social media is just that bad.
From my own point of view, I hate hate hate Instagram/Facebook/Tiktok. When my kids get to that age I'd be facing a binary choice of either letting them use it or turning them into the "one weird kid in the class who isn't allowed insta". Even if this law is only 25% effective, that's good enough for me. My kids will be in that 25% not using it, and I don't have to worry about them being social pariahs.
From a wider point of view, social media is severely fucking up the entire world. I think it's too much for most adults, let alone kids. No way should kids be on there.
BMP5k@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 62d
If we agree social media can be harmful, then why is it an age question and not changing it at its source for everyone like removing infinite scroll. All this does is normalise ID checks for social media so that when the kids are old enough to be on it, they don't see an issue with assigning their ID to their online activity. At the same time we have people getting arrested for protesting which is meant to be a human right.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 62d
Where is your hard evidence? You don't know what you are talking about and you are going off the vibes of a moral panic to make the choice to attempt to massively censor public discourse... while you are on the fediverse of all places!?
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/developmental-psychology/articles/10.3389/fdpys.2026.1805989/full
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/how-and-why-fight-back-against-social-media-bans
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/internet-age-gates-are-growing-global-threat
GiveOver@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 62d
I'm sure you scrolled past plenty of studies that agreed with me when searching for your cherry picked example.
recursivepickle@piefed.social · 1 pts · 62d
I see no mention of Rumble or Telegram. Are they left out on purpose, or because they have no idea what they are doing?
tenebrisnox@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 61d
How would politicians get their class A drugs delivered if they banned under-16s from Telegram?
tal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 61d
They say that they intentionally aren't targeting messaging services, so Telegram might be exempt.
That being said, I'm a little fuzzy on how this is targeting communicating with strangers, since I'd imagine that more people do that via messaging platforms than, say, YouTube:
That's a good point on Rumble, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_(company)
And in that vein, gab.com:
https://gab.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)
And 4chan, while I'm on that:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c624330lg1ko
Like, if part of the net effect winds up being a transfer of Britain's children and teenagers from websites that care about and follow British regulations to websites --- some of which are hard right --- that do not care about British regulation, it will be interesting.
recursivepickle@piefed.social · 2 pts · 61d
I'm thinking they might be using the definition from Digital Services Tax policies, which state that:
https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/digital-services-tax/dst14200
If that's the case, then Rumble et al would be banned too. It might just be, that the press release just mentions the most popular ones.
That they don't intend to target messaging platforms like WhatsApp and Signal (and potentially Telegram) is a bit of a greyzone. Telegram is more social network than messaging app these days, where channels are a huge part of the platform. In fact, it's such an important part, that WhatsApp copied the Channel feature to their platform.
tal@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 61d
Yeah, but my point is really that some services, probably including Rumble, won't care about regulatory action. So the next action, if this continues, would presumably be the British government doing what Russia did, which is mandating that British ISPs set up to block access to government-specified hosts, because legal routes currently being attempted on them won't work.
Then the VPNs and similar come out, and presumably if it keeps going, again, the UK does what Russia did, which is disallow commercial VPNs from operating in the UK without blocking traffic to said hosts internal to the VPN.
Then the next step is things like VPNs that rely on data harvesting instead of commercial sales, so can't be pressured by payment processors, and operate in jurisdictions that don't care about legal action, Tor, DIY proxies (e.g. get cheap VPS in random place, run SOCKS proxy/VPN), and so on. At some point, the British government stops following up, and someone starts making one-click solutions juuust beyond what enforcement goes after.
Ah, gotcha, thanks --- I don't use it.
recursivepickle@piefed.social · 2 pts · 61d
That, yes. They had to arrest Durov before he started doing anything about Telegram.
I have no notes on the rest of your points, it will likely be a gigantic shitshow.