Family files wrongful death suit following Tesla crash in Texas

while I agree with you, this guy had his foot on the accelerator 100% of the way. in this case, if true, I'd have to side with tesla here

They’re not “spying”, they’re logging analytics in a black box essentially, for situations exactly like this.

They’ve accused the Tesla of malfunctioning essentially, publicly, so Tesla have told the public exactly what actually happened.

Maybe if there weren't so many scam artists and ambulance chasers, they wouldn't need black boxes.

Toyota avoided millions in lawsuits with black box data that showed the crying moms on TV were lying.

Sensible attitude. I would think certifying these vehicles for public roads requires a black-box type recording system, as on airliners, which local authorities would immediately collect for a crash investigation. If so, that data will show whether the car or the guy was driving. There's really no point in people taking sides based on feeling a certain way about Elon Musk.

According to Elektrek, Butler had previously told Harris County officials that his vehicle had been on Autopilot (the standard Tesla self-driving system, which is less advanced than FSD) when it collided with Avila's two-story home.

It wasn't even FSD apparently, according to the driver.

Having actually owned a Tesla with Enhanced Autopilot in the past... Autopilot doesn't work at all like this situation would require. Autopilot requires clearly visible lane lines, and is limited to 5 mph over the speed limit unless you are on a highway. A residential street certainly isn't going to allow the vehicle to do the claimed 73mph on Autopilot.

Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla's Head of AI, also commented on the post, supporting Musk's claims Butler was directly operating the car in the events that lead to the fatal crash. "Yup. In this case, the driver manually overrode self-driving by pressing the accelerator all the way to 100% of the accel pedal in this residential area," he said. "They reached a speed of 73 mph during the crash, and had the accelerator pressed even after the crash."

This reads to me as a guy who maybe had autopilot on, then hit the accelerator instead of the brakes when he came to the end of the street, because Autopilot won't stop and turn. Basically the same most of those Prius sudden acceleration crashes from years back. Drivers just hitting the wrong pedal. It's also the simplest explanation.

It’s called “Full Self Driving (Supervised)”. It’s fully driving itself, but the driver has to supervise to make sure it doesn’t break the law. There’s nothing hard to understand about this.

A learner driver taking a drivers license test is still fully driving the car, even though they’re being supervised and the instructor can take over to prevent an accident.

I read, years ago, that Tesla will switch it back to driver control in the seconds before impact, so they can't be blamed with self driving. I've seen this accusation more than once.

Seems pretty simple. Tesla needs to produce the “collision snapshot,” captured by the car’s cameras and assorted sensors before and during the crash. Such data is automatically uploaded to Tesla's servers after a crash. At least that was the story the last time when a hacker managed to recover the data, which had somehow been deleted, from the car as well as Tesla's servers after a fatal collision in Miami last year .

It couldn't've been in use, because if it had been in use, the vehicle's speed would've been lower. Is what Elon Musk is claiming.