Looking at options to degoogle etc., and these look like two valid options. I mainly use a phone for maps and authenticator, and the occasional text or call.
Also, any other good options or considerations I am missing?
Looking at options to degoogle etc., and these look like two valid options. I mainly use a phone for maps and authenticator, and the occasional text or call.
Also, any other good options or considerations I am missing?
12 Comments
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 53d
GrapheneOS is up to date while e/ is miles behind on security and features. Graphene's sandboxed Google play works very well if you need it too
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 18 pts · 53d
I'd sooner use Lineage than /e/
/e/ is another walled garden. Not as high-walled as Apple, but they want to be your everything.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 27d
Why do you say that?I thought they made the basic system only modifiable with hacks just because they probably can't afford to respond to all the tickets otherwise. People delete things and subsequently have trouble with aime if those packages. The only thing that bothered me was Magic Earth due to closed code and that they don't allow easy deletion. I'll probably just replace it with CoMaps but I rarely use maps so...
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 10 pts · 54d
I know pretty much nothing about phones but I have a refurbished Pixel 8a, and I'll make a comparison with an old equivalent Fairphone:
Both have a basic Android without bells and whistles.
If I compare it with my cheap Pixel 8a: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11136&idPhone2=12937:
But that comparison changes according to your budget and the model you're looking for.
reallyzen@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 53d
2 completely different propositions :
So your choice isn't one because it's apples and oranges. I can't go for gOS because they don't care about google, and it means I'd be waving around a pixel, I'd be a mobile billboard for google - and also if "someone" wants to get into my phone, they will anyway. A fairphone is another statement entirely, and with an alternate OS from a small French business it's the most political choice I can make. Also, fuck google.
[edit] e/OS is built on LineageOS which runs on many many phones.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 27d
Fairphone 6 with E/os has been good to me. It might not be perfect, but anything that's ๐ Google is better than all the surveillance before. Any competition at this point is a win.
reallyzen@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 24d
๐ With you here now, F6 and /e/OS ๐
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 53d
I have experienced both first hand.
Pixels are much higher quality / 'premium feeling' devices, but not nearly as ethically sound or repairable as Fairphones (duh). I don't know about the latest generation, but I was not impressed at all with their FP5.
GrapheneOS is amazing if you are willing to spend some time reading into its features and why they matter. Pretty much everything requiring Play Services is just working. /e/OS also has strong privacy features, but to my knowledge they offer less frequent updates, less involved hardening and MicroG rather than sanboxed Play Services.
MicroG (in the past at least) was much less reliable than sanboxed Play, as the latter even allows for device integrity checks to pass. And I mean genuinely pass, not 'with hacks and workarounds kinda pass'. You're only in trouble if you stumble across one of the few apps that use the v2 Integrity API, because that works with Google certified devices only.
Edit: As for /e/OS upsides: Slightly nicer looking, with a slightly nicer featureset out of the box, including a cemare app that crashes phones to this day.
hneerqe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
GrapheneOS is GOAT.
There's also AXP.OS
bloogoose@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 54d
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 27d
I bought a new Samsung 25 Ultra and it lasted a few days before the screen went black after dropping it one time on carpet. Spent around $300 gettimg the new screen fixed on a new $1200-$1400 phone. Damn thing fell a few feet off a table and went black again.
I'd say Fairphone 6 is well worth the money. Especially with a modular and easily repairable design.
goatinspace@feddit.org · 2 pts · 54d
Shiftphone 8 with /e/OS if you can get it. That way you don't feed Google and avoid preinstalled G crap.
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 51d
There is no pre-installed g crap on GrapheneOS. The user has the option of turning it on if they want to.