You can absolutely use physical force to stop a pickpocket. But it has to be a reasonable level of force. For Americans that means you can't randomly murder people and call it self defence.
Iirc the article to which this is loosely referring was about how pickpockets were taken aback when American tourists during the Olympics would physically accost them after they pickpocketed said tourists and didn’t escape quickly enough. Which, you know… yeah? That’s a “professional hazard” of being a pickpocket. This should not surprise them.
I don't think these pickpockets honestly got many sympathies, even from europeans. I think there was allegedly some report were to police pleaded with american tourists not to beat up pickpockets too badly.
Wouldn't the 'Merica! version of this be "Noo! Those brown people might pickpocket me, so I should burn down their homes now before they get a chance!"
So these are both supposed to be from a Parisian's perspective i think?
So the first one about not resisting pickpockets was during the Paris Olympics, but that wasn't a general sentiment by the french at all, that was the Paris Police communicating that, and their specific reason was to keep cases of stabbings down since pickpockets often carry knives. That was not a 'think of the pickpocket's family' scenario.
The second is a Frenchman or Perisian visiting the US and not tipping i think. Eh, this is an actual sentiment for - frankly even many Americans. Not great, but neither is the tipping culture itself.
I don't know any Americans that don't tip. I know Americans that avoid eating out because they don't like tipping culture, but I'm not sure if many Americans agree with the bottom panel even if they don't like tipping.
Nah, you're wrong. I've talked to many who hold that opinion and think it's actually morally bad to tip because if you don't tip, the workers will just quit thus forcing the employer to increase wages. On Lemmy too. It's not an uncommon opinion.
Aren't you Canadian? I didn't say no Americans hold that opinion, I said I don't know any. You may know a lot of Americans who feel that way, but the vast majority (81-92%) tip for sit down service. That sentiment may be more common on Lemmy than IRL, but even on Lemmy people seem to be against exploiting the worker. Lemmy is not a very accurate representation of anything, not even of the Lemmy user base.
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Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 72 pts · 65d
You can absolutely use physical force to stop a pickpocket. But it has to be a reasonable level of force. For Americans that means you can't randomly murder people and call it self defence.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 64d
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -25 pts · 65d
It's true, I distinctly remember the abject horror of the infamous Paris Olympics Murder Spree
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 65d
I never heard anyone say you can't stop a pickpocket.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 65d
Iirc the article to which this is loosely referring was about how pickpockets were taken aback when American tourists during the Olympics would physically accost them after they pickpocketed said tourists and didn’t escape quickly enough. Which, you know… yeah? That’s a “professional hazard” of being a pickpocket. This should not surprise them.
timestatic@feddit.org · 7 pts · 65d
I don't think these pickpockets honestly got many sympathies, even from europeans. I think there was allegedly some report were to police pleaded with american tourists not to beat up pickpockets too badly.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 65d
Wouldn't the 'Merica! version of this be "Noo! Those brown people might pickpocket me, so I should burn down their homes now before they get a chance!"
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -11 pts · 65d
Preemptive strikes are part of my culture 😤
edinbruh@feddit.it · 12 pts · 65d
France 🤢
Come here in Italy where there is no tipping culture and you can hate pickpockets all you want
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 65d
ATTENZIONE PICKPOCKET
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 65d
Also Winter Olympics > Summer Olympics
JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 65d
So these are both supposed to be from a Parisian's perspective i think?
So the first one about not resisting pickpockets was during the Paris Olympics, but that wasn't a general sentiment by the french at all, that was the Paris Police communicating that, and their specific reason was to keep cases of stabbings down since pickpockets often carry knives. That was not a 'think of the pickpocket's family' scenario.
The second is a Frenchman or Perisian visiting the US and not tipping i think. Eh, this is an actual sentiment for - frankly even many Americans. Not great, but neither is the tipping culture itself.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 65d
Don't overthink it. This all goes away when soccer is over
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 64d
Yeah I was just shitposting under the influence, and now there's too many comments to surreptitiously delete it
Edit: I must live with my shame
JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 65d
Yes, just like my wallet and some of a frenchman's teeth.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
Neat!
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 65d
I don't know any Americans that don't tip. I know Americans that avoid eating out because they don't like tipping culture, but I'm not sure if many Americans agree with the bottom panel even if they don't like tipping.
sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 64d
Nah, you're wrong. I've talked to many who hold that opinion and think it's actually morally bad to tip because if you don't tip, the workers will just quit thus forcing the employer to increase wages. On Lemmy too. It's not an uncommon opinion.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 64d
Aren't you Canadian? I didn't say no Americans hold that opinion, I said I don't know any. You may know a lot of Americans who feel that way, but the vast majority (81-92%) tip for sit down service. That sentiment may be more common on Lemmy than IRL, but even on Lemmy people seem to be against exploiting the worker. Lemmy is not a very accurate representation of anything, not even of the Lemmy user base.
https://www.pewresearch.org/2023/11/09/services-americans-do-and-dont-tip-for-and-how-much/
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 64d
Perfect user name for the meme.
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 64d
It's specifically Richard Nixon's head that I was campaigning for