Russia planning attack on Poland to test Nato resolve, US warns
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/07/03/russia-planning-attack-on-poland-test-nato-resolve-us-warns/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_reddit_test-nato-resolve-us-warns%2F&accesscontrol=facebookchannel_open
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SrMono@feddit.org · 53 pts · 55d
Big doubt on that assessment.
Poland is one of the most “never again will we be the victims”-culture (aside of Finland). They are armed to the teeth and won’t fuck around.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 55d
Poland doesn't even need us to intervene, they will rock Putin's shit before asking for help.
PagPag@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 55d
Russia is actually in a pretty bad position right now. They are at an inflection point and losing the war, all things considered.
My biggest question is how Moscow will eventually concede this fact. I don’t think they will and it’ll likely end up as either a nuke being used or internal revolt and revolution
If nothing changes, in six months, there will be mass famine and near ubiquitous collapse within Russia.
Poland doesn’t need to do anything
alakey@piefed.social · 7 pts · 55d
There won't be a nuke, that's just fearmongering. There will also be no revolt of any kind, the vast majority of russians are ok with the war, they want it to end but only in their favour, because they are always given somebody to fuck over beneath them - ethnic minorities, queer people, ukranians, etc. For a revolt they would genuinely have to start starving (which I highly doubt would be allowed to happen) and even then it would be a revolt against an incompetent war monger dictator, not against the dictatorship and war as a whole. The military would most likely seize the control of the country and we would have Myanmar 2.0. It is somewhat of a collapse, especially if some municipalities decide to go rogue, more so chechnya than any others, but the country itself would most likely just remain in an extremely poor as-is state with crime through the roof like what they had in the 90s, if not worse.
justaman123@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
Nukes are a boogey man. No nation can deploy anything like what happened in Japan. They can't even test them above ground anymore. They just don't work and no one knows why. Well some do
PagPag@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 55d
How in tune are you with the current situation in Russia right now? I’ll assume not much because a year ago I’d agree with you. Hell even 8 months ago.
There are gas shortages and rationing across the entire country. Truckers abandoning shipments as they run out of gas, farmers cannot operate their equipment (with the harvesting season coming soon). Civilians in Moscow cannot find gas, mass stealing of others fuel out of their vehicles, 2 day fuel lines spanning hundreds of kilometers in places far away from the front line. It’s so bad that they’ve set up portable toilets on the side of the road…
Russia, the gas station of the world, cannot provide fuel for citizens in their capital city. They are now having to import from Kazakhstan, Belarus, and India. But even that wouldn’t amount to more than 3-4% of their monthly usage.
Wanna see a revolt? That shit is on the near horizon…
alakey@piefed.social · 4 pts · 54d
You know how the maga crowd is saying that it's all just temporary hardship that they must endure for a brighter future? Apply that x999 to russians. As long as they don't have to accept 2 men holding hands in public, they will bend over for pineapples up their asses and claim that it's actually more comfortable to walk that way anyway.
PagPag@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 54d
Yeah, and I fully get where you’re coming from. But this is actually different.
When truckers can’t even make deliveries to grocery stores, people cannot drive to work, and are being laid off because of it, combined with the pending inability for them to harvest crops… Hungry people stop caring so much about cultural bs when they’re skipping meals. Js this is about to get really bad for them. It’s not a hyperbole.
SrMono@feddit.org · 1 pts · 55d
Sir, one „internal revolt and revolution” as take away please.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 55d
Is finnland really that hard on this culture? I know only a bit about the civilic culture but not the militarism culture of finland
SrMono@feddit.org · 22 pts · 55d
Consider that everyone is conscripted, afterwards in the reserve, rifles are stockpiled, bunkers build under public buildings (like swimming halls), the artillery is the biggest of Europe and the Forest bordering Russia a kill-house that waits to get lid on fire.
Yea. I think that is culture.
Also.. sisu
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 55d
I would just like to add: Perkele
SrMono@feddit.org · 6 pts · 55d
Didn‘t find a Perkele-Gym shirt.. printed my own 🙃
Cultural appropriation 🤌
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 55d
🧐
SrMono@feddit.org · 1 pts · 55d
FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 55d
sir, that's just nordic switzerland. Next you're telling me that they also build every infrastructure with pre-planned places for explosives to blow them up in case of war?
SrMono@feddit.org · 2 pts · 55d
We Germans used to do that as well, but the frontline shifted, so it became Polands burden.
bangupjobasusual@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 55d
If things in Ukraine aren’t going according to plan, that would be a monumental ass kicking.
hoch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
I think that's the point? The Ukraine war isn't going to plan, so they could be looking for an exit strategy to save face.
"We could've won the war if NATO didn't get involved 😔"
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 55d
That would be a very quick war for them
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 55d
It wouldn't be a war, Poland would be stupid to escalate it and so would Russia. Poland would give them a slap, if anything.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 55d
By definition it would be. But yes, it would be a Denmark-Style roadtrip
Zombie@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 55d
Says the known lying right wing Torygraph, reporting what the fascist US says, about their forever enemy Russia.
I'm sure this is completely legit, with no ulterior motives at all...
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org · 5 pts · 55d
Paywall no thanks.
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 55d
Here you go, friend: Archived and non-paywalled
EatingOnions@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 55d
I don't have paywall, not sure why you do
Enkrod@feddit.org · 1 pts · 54d
Russia "we can't win against Ukraine" to test the resolve of the worlds mightiest military alliance, while still engaged in Ukraine? By attacking a nation that's been preparing to fight them off since the 90s?
Sure... this is clearly not US officials fear mongering to grab at for the shredded remains of their significance after their diplomatic influence got rekt by their current "administration". /s
lithiumground@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
Russia even can’t handle Ukraine ,how it will attack nato ? These like news are western propaganda to spread fear
EatingOnions@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
You're talking like they're going to invade, which is not the case. Like before they've sent multiple drones to multiple EU countries it will be some kind of diversion with plausible deniability, followed by wave of disinformation using current spat between Poland and Ukraine to drive the wedge even further between them
lithiumground@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 54d
Non sensible . Russia even doesnt have enough resource to handle Ukraine , why they would diversify their limited resource ? It would just longing the war and exhausted itself . Russia is a sick man and cannot recover at least 20 years .
EatingOnions@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
All your questions are answered in article, if you only read it instead of stopping on the title.
lithiumground@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 52d
So, Russia does not have the power to attack NATO. I am talking about a full-scale war. but it will continue to attack with alternative solutions
EatingOnions@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 51d
Of course they don't, article itself mentions it. That's why they want to use diverse attacks to sow doubt between allies and prove NATO doesn't work and in the end each country has to act on its own. Good old divide and conquer
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 54d
This is the only thing the article is claiming as a possibility that is even somewhat credible, though I wouldn't call it an actual attack.
An actual attack on Poland right now would be insane, it would just galvanize the country into supporting Ukraine, or join the battle themselves.
This is more than likely just propaganda to help smooth over the recent spat between the two.
EatingOnions@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
You just talking out of your ass, I'm from Poland and attack on Poland wouldn't galvanise shit, it would be blamed on Ukraine because of current diplomatic situation where people are even more anti Ukraine then during drone incursion year ago and that was first moment during this conflict when Poles genuinely turned in Ukraine due to misinformation. Even now only on report of this things people already saying it's Ukraine planing it because they want Poland to enter the war because Ukraine is losing and all kind of nonsense
oyzmo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 54d
Russia only exists because China allows it. When China thinks Russia is sufficiently weakened, they will just move in an take it.