Samsung passes Nvidia to become most profitable company in the world, notches 19x quarterly increase in profit
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/samsungs-chip-division-expects-to-out-earn-its-entire-40-year-history-in-2026
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manualoverride@lemmy.world · 118 pts · 37d
If history has taught us anything, Samsung will soon cut 5,000 jobs as part of “essential restructuring”.
manualoverride@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 37d
This was supposed to be satire but I just saw 10 days ago they laid off or notified intended dismissal of 1,000 people.
Yay for capitalism!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 37d
Samsung is huge, were those people in the memory business, somewhere else in Electronics, or in some other part of Samsung like insurance or construction?
manualoverride@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 37d
I’ve clicked off the article now but most was due to Samsung Electronics headquarters moving from New Jersey to Texas and then some in India.
WesternInfidels@feddit.online · 40 pts · 37d
So, does that sound like a functioning market?
Zorque@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 37d
Depends on who its functioning for.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 36d
Yes.
Healthy? No. Functioning? Yes.
scratchee@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 35d
The function of a market is not the movement of goods, but the movement of prices.
This particular market is not functioning, or at the very least, it’s not functioning like a market for a commodity that has no particular resource limitations.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 37d
I wonder if this upsets tacky leather jacket guy
SammyJK@programming.dev · 4 pts · 37d
I hope they stay open mindeu
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 37d
Wait till you hear how much power over the entirety of South Korea Samsung had before this spike in profit...
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 36d
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 35d
Why do you guys lie so much? You’re as bad as conservatives
and then…
scytale@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 36d
Yeah, the cheabols essentially run the country and are untouchable.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 36d
By colluding to gouge chip prices. Fuck them, too.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -17 pts · 36d
they’re not colluding this is a left wing conspiracy theory which is weird because demand is obviously coming from ai hyperscalers
Zron@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 36d
You mean the companies that have been tried and convicted in the past of forming a cartel to manipulate DRAM prices, and are now all raising prices through the roof and showing record profits, are not colluding again?
Just because the demand is coming from a different market doesn’t mean the manufacturers aren’t colluding to raise prices and gouge their customers.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -3 pts · 35d
i mean micron literally left the consumer dram business because ai hyperscaler demand is absolutely bonkers off the chart
this is the opposite reason to collude, why risk massive fines and blow back when money is falling from the american sky?
Zron@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 35d
The first time Samsung and micron colluded on dram pricing was in the early 2000s when money was also falling from the sky due to high demand.
The fines they were charged with were a fraction of the profits they gained from price fixing.
It’s almost like having a limited number of manufacturers and a huge demand spike is actually an incentive for price fixing because they can work together to increase profits artificially.
I don’t think you really understand how price fixing and near monopoly markets work. With monopolies and near monopolies, there’s no real downside to colluding on prices, especially in the US where fines are basically guaranteed to be less than profits, and when your company is not headquartered in the US and can’t be forcibly broken apart by the government. If you’re the only company, or one of 3, then you can set whatever price you want. As long as the conspirators agree to pricing, no one will bat an eye at claims of high demand or supply chain issues because all your conspirators also have similarly high pricing.
Usually I say economists are insane cultists. But I really think you could benefit from reading some material on macroeconomics.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 35d
Yes mate, money was falling from the sky so much:
Looks like the price was swinging up and down at the time, so much for money falling out of the sky due to high demand ???
There is no need to agree to collude on pricing when:
Meanwhile, SK Hynix is considering a U.S. listing as its stock price in South Korea surges, and in October, the company said it had secured demand for its entire 2026 RAM production capacity.
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/10/micron-ai-memory-shortage-hbm-nvidia-samsung.html
You are literally sold out of all inventory for the year.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2998935/ram-is-so-expensive-samsung-wont-even-sell-it-to-samsung.html
That's pretty good price collusion if so! Fucking even yourself over in the process!
All these companies impacted and so far none have sued for what you think is completely obvious price collusion?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%93present_global_memory_supply_shortage
So far just a bunch of rag tag 17 random people suing Samsung, SK hynix, and Micron in the U.S. District Court... and here's how their chances look
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/samsung-sk-hynix-and-micron-face-a-third-dram-price-fixing-lawsuit
Good luck with your conspiracy, to me this would be the worst time to collude, especially if you had spare capacity and insane demand that your only few rivals would snap up in an instant
By the way:
https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=258178
https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-it/2025/12/29/S6LSNGZ6B5E3XLY5AVVWA4KQFE/
https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-groundbreaking-historic-new-york-megafab
Investing hundreds of billions of dollars into new semiconductor manufacturing facilities just to fool the regular RAM buying pleb!
ha ha turns out they weren't needed at all, all this money is just being spent to fool you into paying higher prices for memory! or something
jfrnz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
Demand is unrelated to price collusion.
A_A@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 36d
Samsung here, Samsung there; will we ever know what Sam ever sung ?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 10d
Profit doesn't just appear. On whose cost was it made, hm?