Unironically why I embraced activism. Will I create meaningful change to this hellish timeline? No. However, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't try.
yeah and the world is increasingly becoming one I can't function in. I have to have rules that are at least vaguely equitable but more importantly whatever they are they need to be consitantly followed. Im not good in a corruptocracy.
I'd think it would be the opposite, despair out of the futility of it rather than spending your time trying to achieve happiness while it's still possible.
You know, when I was a kid, I thought developing a strong sense of justice was gonna be my greatest asset. “Stand up for what’s right,” they said. “The truth always comes out,” they said. I figured I’d be the guy exposing corruption, protecting the innocent, keeping the whole rotten machine honest.
Well. Looking back… what an investment that turned out to be.
Turns out the machine doesn’t appreciate being told it’s a machine.
Recent events have demonstrated pretty convincingly that justice isn’t some natural law. It’s more like a coupon. Sometimes it works, sometimes the cashier just stares at you while the building catches fire.
So now I’ve got this finely tuned moral compass that starts spinning like a ceiling fan every time I watch the news. Great. Fantastic. This will never drive me completely insane. Not at all. I’ll just keep noticing contradictions until my blood pressure qualifies as a radio frequency.
But here’s the thing—and this is where they get you. You can’t just uninstall it. Once your brain decides wrong is wrong, it doesn’t suddenly go, “Oh, never mind, I guess corruption’s fine now.” No, sir. It keeps filing reports to a management office that doesn’t exist.
Maybe that’s the biggest conspiracy of all. They convince kids that justice always wins, then act surprised when those same kids grow up wondering why nobody’s enforcing the rules.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go staple another page to the evidence board. Any day now, it’ll all connect.
Same with computers except if you're AuDHD you get to multi task while hyperfocusing, and can dig into a new area of tech when you switch partial fixations
Tfw you realize that justice is not just "a strong sense" but actually a feeling like happiness, joy, anger... It's damn hard to explain to someone why an injustice "feels" bad when they can't understand how justice is a feeling.
bullshit is also a feeling that i experience. its like a very literal feeling that i get when people start bullshitting, especially when its directed at me. they start saying things that dont square with my understanding of the nature of reality and i can just feel the bullshit. i dont just trust this feeling because sometimes im wrong and it comes from a desire to really understand the world. the problem is many neurotypical people just want to be right, so when you disagree with them or even just ask for clarification they see it as a personal attack.
It manifests in weird ways sometimes. Like speaking against remarks made toward someone who is objectively a piece of shit only because those remarks aren't actually true when there are plenty of true things that equally show the person in question to be awful.
most people dont care about fairness. most people say thinks but dont mean it. thats what i learned. they talk just for fun and giggles. i only talk to learn or to understand somethink. i dont get why you should talk just like that without a reason. i dont know how to "play" this game named talking lol.
and most people dont behave fair.
Easy to recognize that you're vulnerable, disenfranchised, and overworked/underpaid. Easy to recognize how the system fucks you over specifically or structurally disadvantages you as a member of a demographic or class cohort. Comparatively hard to deal with someone on the other side of the tracks, with radically different experiences and beliefs, and build a sense of collective justice between you.
Idk how many young people come out with a holistic sense of injustice. I see a lot of "if you were just doing things more like me, you'd have a reason to complain" but comparatively little "I'm not here to question your circumstances, I'm just here for the solidarity for the cause".
The /c/LeopardsAteMyFace channel is choke full of people who get off on the schadenfreude of the modern moment. Meanwhile, on the chud sites, you see plenty of folks who express a personal sense of injustice jerking it with abandon to military snuff films and economic sob stories.
If that's your sense of Justice, no wonder you're going insane.
You are generally questioning the concept of a sense of justice because you think all other people on the internet you see are friends? No wonder you're going insane.
I've seen everyone from Malala Yousafzai to Alex Jones express a "sense of justice". The problem of "sensing" justice is that our senses routinely deceive us.
you think all other people on the internet you see are friends?
So yes, people are different. You don't have to agree on anyone to have your own opinions and defend it. It's the same with moral. Don't you have any? Because you don't trust yourself? Dude you're allowed to speak up for yourself and others, just like everyone else.
You don’t have to agree on anyone to have your own opinions and defend it.
That's very different than taking sadistic delight at their suffering.
Dude you’re allowed to speak up for yourself and others, just like everyone else.
Setting aside the fact that you're generally not allowed, either by social convention or strict censorship policies? Just being loudly in opposition isn't the same as being justice-minded.
40 Comments
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 43d
Since I was a child it has always bothered me when people are not treated fairly. But we live in an inherently unfair world....
pedantichedgehog@sh.itjust.works · 52 pts · 42d
Unironically why I embraced activism. Will I create meaningful change to this hellish timeline? No. However, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't try.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 14 pts · 42d
yeah and the world is increasingly becoming one I can't function in. I have to have rules that are at least vaguely equitable but more importantly whatever they are they need to be consitantly followed. Im not good in a corruptocracy.
spock@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 42d
I would say that without activism we would have no society and no order, and you wouldn't be able to live anyway.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d
Tragedy of the commons. Some people just can't appreciate what went into them being able to fuck everyone else over.
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
I'd think it would be the opposite, despair out of the futility of it rather than spending your time trying to achieve happiness while it's still possible.
RustyShackleford@piefed.social · 46 pts · 42d
You know, when I was a kid, I thought developing a strong sense of justice was gonna be my greatest asset. “Stand up for what’s right,” they said. “The truth always comes out,” they said. I figured I’d be the guy exposing corruption, protecting the innocent, keeping the whole rotten machine honest.
Well. Looking back… what an investment that turned out to be.
Turns out the machine doesn’t appreciate being told it’s a machine.
Recent events have demonstrated pretty convincingly that justice isn’t some natural law. It’s more like a coupon. Sometimes it works, sometimes the cashier just stares at you while the building catches fire.
So now I’ve got this finely tuned moral compass that starts spinning like a ceiling fan every time I watch the news. Great. Fantastic. This will never drive me completely insane. Not at all. I’ll just keep noticing contradictions until my blood pressure qualifies as a radio frequency.
But here’s the thing—and this is where they get you. You can’t just uninstall it. Once your brain decides wrong is wrong, it doesn’t suddenly go, “Oh, never mind, I guess corruption’s fine now.” No, sir. It keeps filing reports to a management office that doesn’t exist.
Maybe that’s the biggest conspiracy of all. They convince kids that justice always wins, then act surprised when those same kids grow up wondering why nobody’s enforcing the rules.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go staple another page to the evidence board. Any day now, it’ll all connect.
EntirelyUnlovable@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 41d
This is the best description of this feeling I've ever read
Aedaz_@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 38d
Please don’t give up. ✊
Chaunticleer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 30 pts · 43d
Using my inflated sense of justice:
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 42d
The movie Inside Out: "Anger wants things to be fair."
Me: "Oh, that explains the flashes of searing anger I feel sometimes."
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 42d
My anger is locked in a closet. It has to be, or i'd be dead.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 21 pts · 42d
It is weird to notice another trait that I thought was a personality quirk to be yet again another neurodivergent quality.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 42d
Hey kids, consider a career in engineering! Your goals and results are easy to quantify. You'll hold the device in your hands and it will work.
The laws of nature are harsh, inflexible, and perfectly fair.
TerrabyteMarx@quokk.au · 12 pts · 42d
You'll also enter an industry still dominated by men who act like they're in the 1950's.
Maybe that's easier to deal with if you're personally unaffected.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 42d
Unless of course, you have some sort of condition that makes you sensitive to injustice.
iocase@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 42d
Same with computers except if you're AuDHD you get to multi task while hyperfocusing, and can dig into a new area of tech when you switch partial fixations
kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 42d
Can recommend, pairs perfectly
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 42d
— Death (of Discworld)
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 42d
It IS a great asset.
It just rarely sparks joy. Especially when coupled with an open eye. And even worse with an open mind. But it is a great asset.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 42d
i can't get a job in social work because of this instinct.
Systems suck.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 10 pts · 42d
Tfw you realize that justice is not just "a strong sense" but actually a feeling like happiness, joy, anger... It's damn hard to explain to someone why an injustice "feels" bad when they can't understand how justice is a feeling.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 42d
bullshit is also a feeling that i experience. its like a very literal feeling that i get when people start bullshitting, especially when its directed at me. they start saying things that dont square with my understanding of the nature of reality and i can just feel the bullshit. i dont just trust this feeling because sometimes im wrong and it comes from a desire to really understand the world. the problem is many neurotypical people just want to be right, so when you disagree with them or even just ask for clarification they see it as a personal attack.
bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d
Fuck. Ain't that just the truth.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 42d
It manifests in weird ways sometimes. Like speaking against remarks made toward someone who is objectively a piece of shit only because those remarks aren't actually true when there are plenty of true things that equally show the person in question to be awful.
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d
Assettlers League, assemble!
efty@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
most people dont care about fairness. most people say thinks but dont mean it. thats what i learned. they talk just for fun and giggles. i only talk to learn or to understand somethink. i dont get why you should talk just like that without a reason. i dont know how to "play" this game named talking lol. and most people dont behave fair.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 42d
Is it Justice or Just Us?
Easy to recognize that you're vulnerable, disenfranchised, and overworked/underpaid. Easy to recognize how the system fucks you over specifically or structurally disadvantages you as a member of a demographic or class cohort. Comparatively hard to deal with someone on the other side of the tracks, with radically different experiences and beliefs, and build a sense of collective justice between you.
Idk how many young people come out with a holistic sense of injustice. I see a lot of "if you were just doing things more like me, you'd have a reason to complain" but comparatively little "I'm not here to question your circumstances, I'm just here for the solidarity for the cause".
The /c/LeopardsAteMyFace channel is choke full of people who get off on the schadenfreude of the modern moment. Meanwhile, on the chud sites, you see plenty of folks who express a personal sense of injustice jerking it with abandon to military snuff films and economic sob stories.
If that's your sense of Justice, no wonder you're going insane.
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d
You are generally questioning the concept of a sense of justice because you think all other people on the internet you see are friends? No wonder you're going insane.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
I've seen everyone from Malala Yousafzai to Alex Jones express a "sense of justice". The problem of "sensing" justice is that our senses routinely deceive us.
What?
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 42d
My take is that we all want justice, but some want justic only for themselves or whatever little demographic they've built their identity around.
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
So yes, people are different. You don't have to agree on anyone to have your own opinions and defend it. It's the same with moral. Don't you have any? Because you don't trust yourself? Dude you're allowed to speak up for yourself and others, just like everyone else.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
That's very different than taking sadistic delight at their suffering.
Setting aside the fact that you're generally not allowed, either by social convention or strict censorship policies? Just being loudly in opposition isn't the same as being justice-minded.
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 42d
?
What is moral for you, what is you ethos based on, if not on a feeling of wrong and right? Are you saying you are a computer?
You are, people will even listen if you're not only always being loudly.
Morality exists, get over it lol
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
There is a difference between having a sense of justice and wanting a feeling of vengance.
When you're in a loud room, you must shout to be heard. And if you're gagged in a loud room, nobody is hearing you regardless of your speaking savvy.
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 42d
Who are you actually accusing right now?
That's not really a conversation. Bye